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#1 User is offline   mr1303 

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Posted 2007-July-13, 09:09

3. IMPs, love all

♠ K107
♥ K953
♦ Q42
♣ 873

1♦-(P)-1♥-(1♠)
X*-(2♠)-P-(P)
3♣-(P)-?

Partner opened 1♦, and X was a support double, showing 3 card support.

The issue as I saw it was whether or not your hand has improved enough to either try for game, bid one directly (probably 3NT), or content yourself with a mere preference to 3D.
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Posted 2007-July-13, 10:05

Partner's asking me for a spade stopper (I don't play 3 clubs shows a suit, just nmf).

I have a spade stop
I guess I'll bid three no-trump.
Trust your partner, right?
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Posted 2007-July-13, 11:55

A meer 3 for me. Partner likely has a 0=3=6=4, although a 0=3=5=5 or a 1=3=5=4 are possible.

My partners bid 3 when they are only interested in a stopper.
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Posted 2007-July-13, 15:43

edited.
3D

3clubs is a real suit.
I see lho has bid 2s and not rho which means I expect partner to bid x with my old example hand. In fact I expect partner to double with any extras hand and a stiff spade.
Still a very tough problem
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Posted 2007-July-13, 19:05

Three diamonds. The value of the K has depreciated to a dubious level on the opposing bidding, which means that we are now looking at little more than a bare minimum for our initial response. Partner's sequence has defined shape, most likely 1-3-5-4 or 2-3-4-4. Let's just give a simple preference back to our possibly better fit for now. If partner has a good enough hand that we should be looking for game, he will move again.
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Posted 2007-July-14, 00:26

3D. I don't like the SK opposite my partner's singleton Spade. Though my pd prommises 15+, I am not encouraged with my holding. If he bids further ( 3S or
4C ), I will accept game in 3NT or 5D.
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Posted 2007-July-14, 03:13

3 I think ;), but bear in mid 3 will come next, and I won't knwo what to do next.
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Posted 2007-July-14, 06:27

3NT, 3C was forcing to game,
I have a stopper and only 4hearts.

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Posted 2007-July-14, 16:27

3 is more than enough. Partner is likely 1354 so 3N is out of the picture and K can be used as toilet paper.
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Posted 2007-July-15, 04:07

Partner as a 1-3-5-4 fairly good hand.

We might be making 3NT (x Axx AKJxx Axxx on the guaranteed spade lead) but I think that will need AAAK or AQAK.

I would bid 3D at love all.
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Posted 2007-July-15, 11:12

My 3 call makes the votes 8-2 so far for 3. Not close to bidding more at this heat.
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Posted 2007-July-15, 12:17

Add me to the 3 bidders. If we've got game, partner will make another move.
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Posted 2007-July-15, 13:23

I felt here since partner is marked with shortage in the spade suit, partner is going to be enthusiastic about not selling out to 2S, and as a result, to try 3NT may be a bit much. With only 1 spade stopper we would need 9 running tricks, and I think that may be optimistic. As a result I gave 3D the top score.

3D = 100
3NT = 50
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Posted 2007-July-15, 13:33

I think 3D is just too meek at these colors. We chose to pass over 2S so we could hardly more than this. We hold the QD which is a huge card opposite pard's 5 bagger. The Kh is a quick trick, which is what we need if we are running 9 tricks.

Its the 10s that tips the scales for me. If LHO gets tricky with a club for a spade through, I can stop the suit from either side. Everyone is complaining about the Ks opposite shortness. If I was looking at 5D Id agree, but it wont matter in 3N.

Pard should have no less than:

x AJx AKxxx AJxx,

Q AQx KJxxx AQxx

--- Axx AKxxx AQxxx

What is curious to me is why pard isnt reopening with a x over 2S. Im a little concerned pard has a moderate 0355 and 3N could be very wrong. We'll see I guess.
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Posted 2007-July-15, 13:46

Partner could have a lot less than all your examples. How can he just pass it out with any hand with short spades?
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Posted 2007-July-15, 14:50

I expect partner to double with good hands and a stiff spade. He did not.
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Posted 2007-July-15, 18:43

jdonn, on Jul 15 2007, 11:46 AM, said:

Partner could have a lot less than all your examples. How can he just pass it out with any hand with short spades?

So he should take the push to the three level opposite a minimum responder, just because he has short spades?
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Posted 2007-July-15, 22:26

pclayton, on Jul 15 2007, 07:43 PM, said:

jdonn, on Jul 15 2007, 11:46 AM, said:

Partner could have a lot less than all your examples. How can he just pass it out with any hand with short spades?

So he should take the push to the three level opposite a minimum responder, just because he has short spades?

Yes 10000% percent.

Rereading that, I don't mean to say that on every hand with short spades he should do so, but 100% that he should do so on many hands without extra values.
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Posted 2007-July-16, 11:24

3D, not close.
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