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#1 User is offline   sceptic 

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Posted 2007-July-12, 02:38


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     -     1    Pass
 2    Pass  2    Pass
 3    Pass  4NT   Pass
 5    Pass  5NT   Pass
 6    Pass  6    Pass
 Pass  Pass  

CT CQ C2 C5
HA H4 H3 H6
HK H8 H5 H7
H2 HJ HQ C4
DA D3 D2 D5
CA C3 C7 C8
CK C6 D6 CJ
S4 S3 ST SK
D8 S6 D4 DK
DQ D9 SJ DT
D7 S2 HT DJ
SA SQ S7 S5
S8 C9 H9 S9


we were playing 2/1
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Posted 2007-July-12, 02:49

5N as asking for the number of kings outside trump is not my favorite convention. But I don't know how to bid this with some other 5NT convention. Going through cue-bids first may reveal that W does not have K. Then the prospects of grand slam are too slim and you just sign off in 6. Even if you can discover W's exact shape (the doubleton club allows for a spade discard) and both minor queens it's still not a very good grand. It will probably fail when trumps are 4-1 and also if neither nor can be set up.
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Posted 2007-July-12, 04:11

Bidding: ok

play: I would only cash AK of trump, then the other winners in the hand, ruff and run , last 3 tricks crossruff. 13 tricks.

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Posted 2007-July-12, 05:01

The bidding is fine.

As an interesting side note. Deciding against cuebidding makes sense, as Opener cannot expect any useful info below 4. However, had Responder held one hugely relevant card better, the diamond Jack, he would have qualified as I play for a 4 Picture Jump after 2, showing heart support with two of the top three honors, three of the top four honors in diamonds, and no club or spade control. Opener could then count 12 tricks, a 13th if Responder held the club Queen.

Opener, as I play, would then bid 5, the third step other than a sign-off, to ask about clubs (only coincidentally the strain mentioned), Responder bidding 5, which shows that he does have the club Queen and, as a bonus because the answer is at or one below the agreed strain, a rider answer that his diamonds are without the Ace (known as it turns out, but still answered).

Opener could then ask for the heart Jack, if he is super cautious. As the club situation has been resolved, as had the diamond situation, the heart ask is the second of the two remaining asking bids, such that Opener would bid 5NT. As Responder lacks the heart Jack, and also lacks the heart Ace obviously, his answer would be 6.

This alternative auction, and Responder's failure to elect that option, would leave me confident in the actual auction that Responder's diamonds are at best KQxxx when he declines to bid the grand over 5NT.


The play -- I think I'm following, and it looks troubling. A much better line would be to win the club Queen, play the heart Ace. Then the diamond Ace, heart Queen, and heart King. Top two diamonds, ruff a diamond, club, club (spade pitch), spade Ace, spade ruff, win the last trick with the diamond 7.

Not winning the last trick with the seven of diamonds is inexcusable. You must not have been very thirsty.
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Posted 2007-July-12, 07:27

Hi,

bidding was fine, and the contract was fine,
you are home in case trumps are 2-3,
because if I see it correct, you just need to
trump one spade.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: Ok, you want to be in 7. But 7S probably
needs trumps 3-2 and clubs 5-3, which does
not make it a really good grand.
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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