[pclayton]

Scoring: IMP

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You open 3♣ in 2nd. 3♦ on left, 3N on right.

Your lead?

[Free]

You had ♥A86, and I would lead small ♥...

[scoob]

low club for me, but i'm a notoriously poor leader

[jdonn]

I would lead a club but since the person who apparently has seen the hand leads a heart, hmmmm....

[Free]

jdonn, on Jun 22 2007, 03:16 AM, said:

I would lead a club but since the person who apparently has seen the hand leads a heart, hmmmm....

Sorry for being honest

[kenrexford]

Since the gig is up, I think that I'm free to argue anything now, right?

Clearly, the correct lead is the club King.

I'm playing for partner to have the stiff Queen, which seems logical for his pass. Dummy, who has a long diamond suit, seems favorite to have the 109 tight in clubs. That leaves Declarer with A7x.

Otherwise, why would the club 8 be featured as a key card and leading the club King an option?

I expect the opponents to eventually win the club, run six diamonds for seven tricks, and then have an eighth trick from the spade Ace before I get in with my heart or partner with his spade King to lead a heart.

Brutal hand. But, you have to find those obvious leads.

[Fluffy]

I don't have strong opinions on heart vs club, at trump contract club would be off (underleading a tenace from a suit partner failed to raise is normally poor), now its not that clear, but I voted for a heart anway.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

Low club, anything else is just guessing.
If you want to hit partners suit attack spades,
but what good will it do to you?

Partner will have two entries (and he will stop diamonds
else, we have no chance at all), give him two clubs
(not needing the Queen) and we have established
clubs after trick 4 or 5.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[whereagles]

I'll lead a club. If I don't and pard happens to have the ♣Q and they need a heart trick, I'll feel really bad

[pclayton]

I led a low heart. My reasoning was that for the heart to work, pard only needed a decent 5 card suit and an entry. Here's the entire hand:

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A low heart presents declarer with his 9th trick, as pard ducked. Doesn't even help pard to rise and shift.

[jdonn]

kenrexford, on Jun 21 2007, 09:34 PM, said:

Clearly, the correct lead is the club King.

Can I laugh about it now?

[kenrexford]

jdonn, on Jun 22 2007, 11:36 AM, said:

kenrexford, on Jun 21 2007, 09:34 PM, said:

Clearly, the correct lead is the club King.

Can I laugh about it now?

I voted small club, but I got suckered by the option and 8-spot into buying it. LOL

As to the heart lead and switch -- so what? He rises with the heart King and switches to a club. The Ace wins. A second heart throws you in, and you cannot do anything useful with the clubs.

Strangely, though, you can recover if you lead the heart Ace and switch to a small club.

Back to jdonn -- notice, though, how the club King actually avoids an overtrick problem. Partner hops heart King (trusting) and lead the club 10 back, which you overtake, clearing the suit. So, that lead actually works as well as a small heart! LOL

[jdonn]

kenrexford, on Jun 22 2007, 11:42 AM, said:

jdonn, on Jun 22 2007, 11:36 AM, said:

kenrexford, on Jun 21 2007, 09:34 PM, said:

Clearly, the correct lead is the club King.

Can I laugh about it now?

I voted small club, but I got suckered by the option and 8-spot into buying it. LOL

As to the heart lead and switch -- so what? He rises with the heart King and switches to a club. The Ace wins. A second heart throws you in, and you cannot do anything useful with the clubs.

Strangely, though, you can recover if you lead the heart Ace and switch to a small club.

Back to jdonn -- notice, though, how the club King actually avoids an overtrick problem. Partner hops heart King (trusting) and lead the club 10 back, which you overtake, clearing the suit. So, that lead actually works as well as a small heart! LOL

Well if I can't laugh about that at least I can laugh you said 'the gig is up' instead of the JIG is up! Come on gimme something to work with!

[kenrexford]

jdonn, on Jun 22 2007, 11:55 AM, said:

kenrexford, on Jun 22 2007, 11:42 AM, said:

jdonn, on Jun 22 2007, 11:36 AM, said:

kenrexford, on Jun 21 2007, 09:34 PM, said:

Clearly, the correct lead is the club King.

Can I laugh about it now?

I voted small club, but I got suckered by the option and 8-spot into buying it. LOL

As to the heart lead and switch -- so what? He rises with the heart King and switches to a club. The Ace wins. A second heart throws you in, and you cannot do anything useful with the clubs.

Strangely, though, you can recover if you lead the heart Ace and switch to a small club.

Back to jdonn -- notice, though, how the club King actually avoids an overtrick problem. Partner hops heart King (trusting) and lead the club 10 back, which you overtake, clearing the suit. So, that lead actually works as well as a small heart! LOL

Well if I can't laugh about that at least I can laugh you said 'the gig is up' instead of the JIG is up! Come on gimme something to work with!

You still don't get it.

Sure, I might have also said that the "jig" is up. However, that was not my meaning.

What I meant was that the "gig" was up. We were all frogs, waiting innocently on the BBF shore for a nice little fly of a lead problem to catch. However, the lure of the club 8 and the king option in that poll was like a light that was blinding me. The "gig" was "up" above our heads, ready to strike us, if we continued to focus on that option and that pip. However, I saw the "gig" in the brief flash of light that free provided, thereby knowing that I should jump away, little froggie, from that alluring fly.

Or, maybe I just spelled jig wrong.

You guess.

LOLOLOL

[Echognome]

As a complete aside, I thought it was interesting to see that typo as I thought about the terms jig and gig and could only think of the definitions of a lure (jig) and a music event or booking (gig). Looking up the definition of gig, however, yielded quite a few definitions (paranthesis are my own comments):

Gig
1. something that whirls or is whirled (as in a whirligig)
2. a 3-digit selection in a numbers game (has anyone heard of this game?)
3. a person of odd or grotesque appearance (has anyone heard of this insult?)
4. a rowboat designed for speed rather than work (what work is done on a rowboat?)
5. a light 2-wheeled one-horse carriage
6. a pronged spear for catching fish
7. an arrangement of hooks to be drawn through a school of fish in order to hook their bodies
8. a job usually for a specified time (this is the common definition I knew)
9. a military demerit
10. a gigabyte (another common definition)

Who knew the word was so versatile?

[kenrexford]

For catching fish??? I've never heard of "fish gigging." But, frog gigging is something I actually have done many times.

Any other proficient frog giggers out there?

[jdonn]

I have no clue at all what frog gigging is, yet I'm still not the least bit surprised that you do it.

[kenrexford]

jdonn, on Jun 22 2007, 07:30 PM, said:

I have no clue at all what frog gigging is, yet I'm still not the least bit surprised that you do it.

It has been quite a long while.

Frog gigging is a method of hunting frogs. Not sure really why one wants to hunt frogs, but apparently I used to believe that fried frog legs, especially wild ones, were a delicacy and not just disgusting.

Anyway, you need some equipment, if you are interested in this exciting hobby. I would suggest boots, as you will be trudging along the banks of ponds or slow-moving streams. You also need a flashlight, first to find the frogs and then to blind the frogs into a stupor, unless you gig during the day, of course, for the challenge.

You also will need a gig, which is a tiny little trident (maybe 2" X 4") attached to a long pole.

You then trudge the waterside, looking for tasty little frogs. When you see one, you dazzle it with the light at the end of its personal tunnel, and then stab the sucker.

Later, you remove the legs and toss them into a skillet with hot oil, possibly breaded if you prefer. The frog legs have a tendency to "hop around" in the skillet as the legs twitch. That, of course, is part of the enjoyment of wild frog gigging.

Then, sit back with a beer and enjoy.

[pclayton]

And i thought cow tipping was fun.