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3-8-2-0 Vul with a poor suit

#1 User is offline   MickyB 

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Posted 2007-May-09, 06:48

Scoring: IMP

How brave are you feeling?

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Posted 2007-May-09, 06:51

About 3H-worth of brave, but second choice is to pass.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 07:40

If I preempt vulnerable on this, partner will never take me for this "weak". So pass is a strong, very stong option. With some partners I would be essentially forced to pass. On the other hand, vul versus vul, I only tend to promise 6 tricks for a 3 level preempt and with eight hearts, that is what I will win a fair amount of time, and Qxx of spades might muster a trick if parrtner has a spade card. So, I would (gulp) open 3♥. If it was we VUl, them not-vul, I would quietly pass.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 07:59

MickyB, on May 9 2007, 07:48 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

How brave are you feeling?

Pass
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Posted 2007-May-09, 08:18

Pass???? I am not passing an 8-card suit even with my most conservative partner. Esp when the opps have a likely game and maybe a slam? Either 3H or 4H. 4H with my right thinking partners, 3H with the conservative ones.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 08:34

chicken, pass.

3 Heart will hope to compare missing values with extra length.
So I tell two wrongs to get one right?
It is totaly possible to play preempts this way but my partner never understands this.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 08:40

3♥ for me

preempts are about striking when it's right, not following rules.

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Posted 2007-May-09, 09:26

3♥

At unfavorable I would open 2♥.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 09:29

Apollo81, on May 9 2007, 04:26 PM, said:

3♥

At unfavorable I would open 2♥.

agree
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Posted 2007-May-09, 09:31

3H.

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Posted 2007-May-09, 09:40

Hi,

I am not going to pass,
so I would say 3H, which
I would also bid unv.
Unv. 3H is a bit on the light side,
but I dont bid 4H, and I dont bid
2H with a 8 carder, with a 7 carder
yes, but not with an 8 carder.

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Posted 2007-May-09, 10:36

My opponent opened 2♥. My team mate passed. I prefer the latter but would probably open 3♥.

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Posted 2007-May-09, 10:56

The one bid that makes no sense to me at all is 2♥. It shows nothing like this, tons of extra trumps don't compensate for having no strength or suit quality. What is next, x T98765432 Jx x? It is just asking to go (3♣) DBL (P) back to me and I won't have the slightest clue what to do.

3♥ for me.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 11:03

jdonn, on May 9 2007, 12:56 PM, said:

The one bid that makes no sense to me at all is 2♥. It shows nothing like this, tons of extra trumps don't compensate for having no strength or suit quality. What is next, x T98765432 Jx x? It is just asking to go (3♣) DBL (P) back to me and I won't have the slightest clue what to do.

3♥ for me.

pull, duh

that hand is better than the OP's and shorter in spades, so is an obvious 3 or 4h
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Posted 2007-May-09, 12:21

3♥ for me, if held that today I would consider 1♠ also
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Posted 2007-May-09, 13:09

3♥
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Posted 2007-May-09, 13:11

4H. I cannot believe all the passers, perhaps I'm sick but pass seems way sicker.
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Posted 2007-May-09, 13:16

You wouldn't get me to open this 2H if you held a gun to my head.

Bid 4 and see what happens. Hopefully I have Namyats available
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Posted 2007-May-09, 14:07

Jlall, on May 9 2007, 02:11 PM, said:

4H. I cannot believe all the passers, perhaps I'm sick but pass seems way sicker.

You see what happens? You start passing a 7-carder and the next thing you know everybody thinks it is OK to pass an 8-carder. :P
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Posted 2007-May-09, 15:34

I would not open this hand, but would jump to 4 over any opponent bid
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