[DWM]

Scoring: IMP

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Bidding all our way, Partner opens

1C - 1S
2C - ??

I was thinking that we probably have a missfit here, if so I should shut up as soon as I could. However, if he is unbalanced and min my Partner has little choice but to bid clubs again.

So I bid 2H

Should I have bid at all?

Should I have chosen 2D over 2H, are these bids forcing?

[Walddk]

2♥ is a 1-round force, and I don't want it to be. So I pass before lightning strikes. Sure, we may play better in any other strain, but I am not going to experiment.

Roland

[sceptic]

surely a 5-2 spade fit or a 4-3 heaart fit (if it is there is better than a 5 - 0 club fit) no guarentees it is there, but is it not favorite to work out better more times that n not?

not daring to critise your comment just curious ) I am just struggling to see your logic here

[Walddk]

sceptic, on Nov 30 2006, 02:36 PM, said:

surely a 5-2 spade fit or a 4-3 heaart fit (if it is there is better than a 5 - 0 club fit) no guarentees it is there, but is it not favorite to work out better more times that n not?

not daring to critise your comment just curious )

You can't stop in 2♥, Wayne, that's the problem. Besides, partner had the option of rebidding 1NT with a 2-2-4-5 or 2-4-2-5 shape, so he is a strong favourite to have at least six clubs.

He could even have raised to 2♠ with 3-1-3-6 or 3-3-1-6, especially if his club suit is weakish.

Roland

[pclayton]

Unfortnately you have to pass, with the knowledge there may be better strains to play in.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

a way to deal with those type of
hands is to play NMF.
Simply speaking: any inv. hand goes through
the cheapest possible bid (usually a minor),
in the given case 2D.

The corrolar is, that a 2H bid in this seq. would
show a weak 2-suiter, 5-4 min, requesting partner
to choose.

If you dont play NMF, you have to pass, since in
this case any new suit is natural and forcing.
A 2S bid is an option, but it should promise a 6
card suit.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Walddk]

P_Marlowe, on Nov 30 2006, 05:05 PM, said:

Hi,

a way to deal with those type of
hands is to play NMF.
Simply speaking: any inv. hand goes through
the cheapest possible bid (usually a minor),
in the given case 2D.

The corrolar is, that a 2H bid in this seq. would
show a weak 2-suiter, 5-4 min, requesting partner
to choose.

If you dont play NMF, you have to pass, since in
this case any new suit is natural and forcing.
A 2S bid is an option, but it should promise a 6
card suit.

With kind regards
Marlowe

How does your method work when partner opens 1♦, rebids 2♦ over 1♠ and your shape is 5-4-0-4, weak?

Roland

[P_Marlowe]

Walddk, on Nov 30 2006, 10:15 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Nov 30 2006, 05:05 PM, said:

Hi,

a way to deal with those type of
hands is to play NMF.
Simply speaking: any inv. hand goes through
the cheapest possible bid (usually a minor),
in the given case 2D.

The corrolar is, that a 2H bid in this seq. would
show a weak 2-suiter, 5-4 min, requesting partner
to choose.

If you dont play NMF, you have to pass, since in
this case any new suit is natural and forcing.
A 2S bid is an option, but it should promise a 6
card suit.

With kind regards
Marlowe

How does your method work when partner opens 1♦, rebids 2♦ over 1♠ and your shape is 5-4-0-4, weak?

Roland

Hi Roland,

In this seq., it is not possible,
to sign off. in 2H, due to lack
of space.

2H would be art. and forcing,
asking for further description.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[whereagles]

This depends a lot on the system style.

If 2♣ promises a 6-card suit 99% of the time (as played in the US), then pass is probably the percentage bid.

If 2♣ promises only a 5-card suit (as played in some countries in EU), then there's a second style issue to sort out. Some play 2♥ now as forcing, in which case you can guess between pass and 2♠, others play 2♥ as non-forcing, in which case you can bid 2♥ to show your 54 and ask for a preference.

[HeartA]

pass. pd should have 6+ clubs 90% of the time.