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Posted 2005-October-26, 00:00

Playing with random PD in the lobby.

Scoring: IMP


1♠ DBL 2♦ 4♥
5♦ pass pass DBL//

While Norther doubled pd's 1♠ opening, I decided to hide my ♥ and show ♦. Seems it's too good news for PD that he run to 5♦. Somehow frustrated, I had to admit it was a good contract.

The leading was a small ♥. Finally I put ♠K on the wrong side (my big fault), 5♦-1, that's not too bad score, just small negative imp. I can't complain about PD's decision (he had a hard time) not only because I messed up a makable contract but also for there could be a slam if no wastage in ♥ honor. However, it's very uncomfortable: we took -100 when we could made 500 or 800.

Any comments?

Scoring: IMP

5♦X -1
Leading ♥x

1♠-DBL-2♦-4♥
5♦//


I don't want to comment on NS's bidding. They did what they want to.
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Posted 2005-October-26, 00:47

2♦ is a reasonable bid, but once you believe that N has ♥ (as all the table believed ;) ) I would not even bid 2♦: pass and wait for further developments.
2♦ is not pre-emptive, and I do not see what particular advantage might bring.
It is quite likely that S bids 4♥ all the same (and it would be God's punishment for N's sins). At least 800.
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Posted 2005-October-26, 08:14

What do you want from the guy? His pard bid 2D and he has 4 of them and a stiff. You can't always achieve the best result, especially when the opps are insane (you can take less inferences).

I don't understand bidding 2D. If I were going to bid with your hand I would bid 2H with the hopes of finding a heart game. I'm not sure what target bidding 2D is hoping for.
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Posted 2005-October-26, 09:03

Jlall, on Oct 26 2005, 09:14 AM, said:

I'm not sure what target bidding 2D is hoping for.

sounds reasonable.

Actually 5D was what I indeed want, interesting. Attractive quiz!
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Posted 2005-October-26, 10:31

Ignoring such a good heart suit just because an opponents doubled is not a good idea imo.

Incidentally, I would bid 2♦, transfer to hearts :P.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2005-October-26, 10:36

Hannie, on Oct 26 2005, 11:31 AM, said:

Ignoring such a good heart suit just because an opponents doubled is not a good idea imo.

Incidentally, I would bid 2♦, transfer to hearts :P.

Playing transfers it's possible to transfer to diamonds and then bid hearts even. However I agree a 2D transfer would be better because A) if the opps bid over 2C(transfer to diamonds) you would not get to show the hearts. B ) If partner bid 2S over 2C you couldn't show the hearts. C) Even if you do get to show them, you will only be promising 4 of them.
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