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Poll: What is your play at T1 / T2? (17 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your play at T1 / T2?

  1. Win the JC, Cash the KH, and QH (5 votes [29.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.41%

  2. Win the JC, Club to the K, and heart to the K (2 votes [11.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

  3. Win the JC, Lay down the 10D (1 votes [5.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

  4. Win the JC, Lay down the KD (1 votes [5.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

  5. Win the KC, Play the 9D (1 votes [5.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

  6. Win the KC, Play the 2D (6 votes [35.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.29%

  7. Win the KC, Play the 2S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Win the KC, Play the 2H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. Win the KC, Play the JD (1 votes [5.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

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Posted 2005-October-22, 10:46

I had this interesting hand the other night in a B flight club game.

Matchpoints, weak game. RHO opens a weak 2♠ (red / red). You overcall 2N, pard Staymans and you end up in 3N:

Scoring: MP


LHO leads the ♣2 (supposedly 4th best). No matter what you play from dummy, RHO plays the 9.

What is your plan for the 1st few tricks?

This post has been edited by inquiry: 2005-October-22, 10:57

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Posted 2005-October-23, 17:04

I'm with the majority here, but I am not sure if the knowdledge of the ♣9 at my right, wich can be a encouraging signal, helped me.
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Posted 2005-October-23, 20:10

Wow - must have been a tough hand. :)

Nobody?
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Posted 2005-October-23, 20:52

why was the post edited by inquiry...just curious lol.
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Posted 2005-October-23, 21:31

I will try a different line. Win ♣J, cross to ♣K, then ♦2 intending to put T.
West is possible to be endplayed later.
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Posted 2005-October-23, 23:28

Jlall, on Oct 23 2005, 06:52 PM, said:

why was the post edited by inquiry...just curious lol.

Because the poll answers were entered wrong.
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Posted 2005-October-23, 23:29

cnszsun, on Oct 23 2005, 07:31 PM, said:

I will try a different line. Win ♣J, cross to ♣K, then ♦2 intending to put T.
West is possible to be endplayed later.

West just exits a heart after winning the diamond. How does this help your cause?
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Posted 2005-October-24, 00:29

pclayton, on Oct 24 2005, 12:29 AM, said:

cnszsun, on Oct 23 2005, 07:31 PM, said:

I will try a different line. Win ♣J, cross to ♣K, then ♦2 intending to put T.
West is possible to be endplayed later.

West just exits a heart after winning the diamond. How does this help your cause?

Supposing west's hand: x xxxx AQxx Qxxx
After getting ♥return, cash another ♥ honor, continue forcing ♦, when west got in again, he has nothing good to do. No matter what he returns, you will prevail if i figure it out right.
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Posted 2005-October-24, 08:56

LHO didn't start a S so he may not have any......that said, he has H tricks and RHO must not have the D Ace, so play accordingly.
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Posted 2005-October-24, 11:47

pclayton, on Oct 22 2005, 11:46 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

I duck at trick one, playing West for 0-4-4-5 hand. There is a reason for not leading a ♠.
Now I play ♦K. Either they duck or win, let's say they duck, I keep playing on ♦.
I am counting, 3♣, 3♥, 2♦ and 1♠.
It is some form of repeating throwin of West.

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Posted 2005-October-24, 12:23

pclayton, on Oct 22 2005, 11:46 AM, said:

Scoring: MP


LHO leads the ♣2 (supposedly 4th best). No matter what you play from dummy, RHO plays the 9.

I think that the C2 is likely a true 4th best, so our friend has 0S, 4H, 5D and 4C. He has the J of H and the A of D to go with the C Q. Why not lead from the D or H suit? He heard that J empty leads against NT don't work and that a D lead wouldn't have enough entries in his hand to set up the suit so he tried a C by elimination..... <_<
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Posted 2005-October-24, 18:36

Al_U_Card, on Oct 24 2005, 01:23 PM, said:

pclayton, on Oct 22 2005, 11:46 AM, said:

Dealer: East
Vul: Both
Scoring: MP
♠ T52
♥ A752
♦ J982
♣ K6
♠ K83
♥ KQ
♦ KT3
♣ AJT73
 


LHO leads the ♣2 (supposedly 4th best). No matter what you play from dummy, RHO plays the 9.

I think that the C2 is likely a true 4th best, so our friend has 0S, 4H, 5D and 4C. He has the J of H and the A of D to go with the C Q. Why not lead from the D or H suit? He heard that J empty leads against NT don't work and that a D lead wouldn't have enough entries in his hand to set up the suit so he tried a C by elimination..... :D

Very imaginific. And it would fit a weak opponent who has read some books.
IMHO, the 9♣ looks like a singleton, and W has lead the 5th card of his suit.

I would play 10♣, k♣ and 9♦for a finess of the ♦Q


PS: if E has the ♣Q (veeery unlikely) he should play it; and if he has 9-8 in ♣ he should play the 8. I am more and more convinced that the 2♣ if a 5th card. Alternatively, W has a 1-4-4-4, and has led the promised 4th card. E does not know how to discard (maybe he is giving count). It does not change my play to the first 2 tricks
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