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Posted Yesterday, 23:29



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Posted Today, 01:06

You have the balance of points so X, otherwise I would expect play to go as as per any agreement versus interference over 1N but I guess that doesn't exist either?
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Posted Today, 01:21

X, it's what I would have agreed anyway.
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Posted Today, 01:53

I don't like x simply for the reason that opener could have A and 5 or 6 club tricks, so I could be about to look very stupid.

My diamond would be 4+ and not a weak NT, so I would bid 3 (fit), not sure what is standard here.
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Posted Today, 04:12

I was gonna say Xers will see DA plus AKQJ 6th of C while realizing they were cold for 4H. But it was pointed out already.

2NT is similar to Truscott but it implies a 5th D and buries H forever. Partner will never guess we have a 5th H if we bid 3H after the likely retreat to 3D.

Those who play transfers here have an easy bid but it is not standard.

2C for majors is popular here maybe you can try this and it will work especially when partner does not bid 2S.
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Posted Today, 05:55

View Postmw64ahw, on 2026-May-30, 01:06, said:

You have the balance of points so X, otherwise I would expect play to go as as per any agreement versus interference over 1N but I guess that doesn't exist either?

How does Leb work here?

X 8+hcp, pass <8 hcp appears to be popular here in Canada
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Posted Today, 06:05



2 transfer
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Posted Today, 07:44

 jillybean, on 2026-May-30, 06:05, said:



2 transfer


Luckily it was advancer and not overcaller who had Cs. At least we won t write down -180 but we are not clear yet.

If we pass, it should not be forcing (we could have Xed with 9 HCPs so it does not clearly make us majoritary enough for pass to be forcing, right?) but at least it says I cannot X that. And see if partner can move over this. Safe but if it goes pass pass we will regret it (we have to sit if partner Xes). Low risk low reward.

3H now would clearly express our strength but we might have nowhere to go. High risk high reward.

Knowing your opening style (D = 3+ or 4+, C = 3+ or 2+) and if advancer promises 5 or 6 C could help assess the likelihood of H fit opposite.

But let s take the high road anyway.
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Posted Today, 08:01

 jillybean, on 2026-May-29, 23:29, said:



teams tonight

Double if they run clubs, so be it
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Posted Today, 08:15

View Postmike777, on 2026-May-30, 08:01, said:

Double if they run clubs, so be it


They did, 670 in the wrong column.

My auction wasn't exactly like this, I tend to make the worst possible choice when under pressure.
This auction comes up perhaps once every 18 months, I hope that remembering it is the opposite of D0PV will help. (or making a generic CC)
Not all was lost, we won by 2 :)
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Posted Today, 08:57

View Postjillybean, on 2026-May-30, 05:55, said:

How does Leb work here?

X 8+hcp, pass <8 hcp appears to be popular here in Canada

We play a modified version of Hello here (transfer advances?) so with partner I bid 2 s and follow up with 3 showing x54x forcing to 3N
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