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Is this the easiest 2/1 auction you've ever seen? brd30

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Posted 2026-March-10, 20:17



2C gf could be short of course

or

1H 2C
2D 3C
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Posted 2026-March-10, 22:55

I see 8 clubs

After 2D by partner, I don't think they have 8 hearts.

I rebid my 8 card club suit.
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Posted 2026-March-10, 23:04

I think the easier auction here is
1 - 2 or balanced
2 min? - 4 3 choice of slams
but it all depends how you structure the bids.
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Posted 2026-March-10, 23:43

I am not sure I have an easy way to check for all the cards so am going simple with RKCB to ask for aces and queen of hearts
I know I could possibly miss 7 hearts - but could stop in 5 :)
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Posted Yesterday, 05:14

This is not an easy hand to bid at all.

For me East has shown 5(+), 4 and 3(+) - so 3=5=4=1, 4=5=4=0 or 3=6=4=0 (with 3=5=5=0 rebid 3). Despite this I think I would have chosen to conceal the heart support and set clubs as trumps. We have a very strong hand in support of clubs and a decent one in support of hearts, but it'll likely be tough to establish the clubs and draw the trumps and have an entry to our good clubs in a heart contract. I'm not sure whether we should be aiming for slam, or if we do, whether 6 is a good goal.
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Posted Yesterday, 05:27

View PostDavidKok, on 2026-March-11, 05:14, said:

This is not an easy hand to bid at all.

For me East has shown 5(+), 4 and 3(+) - so 3=5=4=1, 4=5=4=0 or 3=6=4=0 (with 3=5=5=0 rebid 3). Despite this I think I would have chosen to conceal the heart support and set clubs as trumps. We have a very strong hand in support of clubs and a decent one in support of hearts, but it'll likely be tough to establish the clubs and draw the trumps and have an entry to our good clubs in a heart contract. I'm not sure whether we should be aiming for slam, or if we do, whether 6 is a good goal.

Any idea what the probability is of opener having 6+ when you have 8?
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Posted Yesterday, 05:29

View Postjillybean, on 2026-March-10, 20:17, said:

2C gf could be short of course

Alertable - I wonder how many don't do it
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Posted Yesterday, 07:06

What happened after
1H-2C
2D-3C?

As others said not an easy start
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Posted Yesterday, 07:30

View Postmw64ahw, on 2026-March-11, 05:29, said:

Alertable - I wonder how many don't do it

We alert and give full explanation. Isn't it standard yet?
As for others, anything is possible :)
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Posted Yesterday, 07:32

View Postmike777, on 2026-March-10, 22:55, said:

I see 8 clubs

After 2D by partner, I don't think they have 8 hearts.

I rebid my 8 card club suit.

I see 8 clubs, I also see 5+ hearts in partners hand and 3 in mine
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Posted Yesterday, 15:55

The devil is in the detail.
I would interpret the auction exactly as Davidkok, but draw the opposite conclusion, at least at MP...
I think we have a good chance of establishing the clubs and are set for a higher score in hearts.
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Posted Yesterday, 17:58

We did not find 6H, but made 7


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Posted Yesterday, 18:17

Over 3c partner might bid 5NT pick a slam

Probably 6h. Might play better from partners side
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