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Posted 2025-August-29, 13:40
Here is a fun hand from last night. Matchpoints. I'll share my start to the auction and I welcome your input at an important juncture. If we can agree on a continuation from here I'll leave it up to you to figure out the play/defence after.
Your call? Or would you have done something different already?
Your call? Or would you have done something different already?
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Posted 2025-August-29, 13:48
3H I think enough. Partner needs some slack with a 3325 hand too weak for a penalty or simply a real weak hand with 4 hearts.
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Posted 2025-August-29, 14:09
My partners will act over 2C with anything resembling values.
3H I don’t want to hear 3C
3H I don’t want to hear 3C
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Posted 2025-August-29, 14:26
I'm fine with 1D.
Hear 3C.
I trust my partners not to act over 2C without due cause, which includes hands that would now bid 2H holding 4 cards and 7 HCP or so.
3C is an invite to show that maximal hand with a control-bid, with less stop in 3H.
If she comes through with 3S I will investigate slam gingerly, if not then I bid 4H.
Hear 3C.
I trust my partners not to act over 2C without due cause, which includes hands that would now bid 2H holding 4 cards and 7 HCP or so.
3C is an invite to show that maximal hand with a control-bid, with less stop in 3H.
If she comes through with 3S I will investigate slam gingerly, if not then I bid 4H.
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Posted 2025-August-29, 15:48
pescetom, on 2025-August-29, 14:26, said:
I'm fine with 1D.
Hear 3C.
I trust my partners not to act over 2C without due cause, which includes hands that would now bid 2H holding 4 cards and 7 HCP or so.
3C is an invite to show that maximal hand with a control-bid, with less stop in 3H.
If she comes through with 3S I will investigate slam gingerly, if not then I bid 4H.
Hear 3C.
I trust my partners not to act over 2C without due cause, which includes hands that would now bid 2H holding 4 cards and 7 HCP or so.
3C is an invite to show that maximal hand with a control-bid, with less stop in 3H.
If she comes through with 3S I will investigate slam gingerly, if not then I bid 4H.
I disagree with this. I think 3c should be a bid hand with 4-3-5-1 type shape.
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Posted 2025-August-29, 19:54
3C, will pass 3H
X and cue should be huge hand
X and cue should be huge hand
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Posted 2025-August-29, 21:26
A multi-2♦ comes to mind for this shape/strength. In my case I go via 2♣.
2♣ - 2♦ - 3♠ tells partner what they need to know.
2♣ - 2♦ - 3♠ tells partner what they need to know.
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Posted 2025-August-29, 21:45
jillybean, on 2025-August-29, 14:09, said:
My partners will act over 2C with anything resembling values.
3H I don’t want to hear 3C
3H I don’t want to hear 3C
Then you should find new partners. It’s trivial to construct hands with something ‘resembling values’ that has zero business bidding over 2C.
How about Kx Jxxxx xx Kxxx?
What would you like partner to bid over 2C?
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Posted Today, 04:48
There are plenty of hands where partner might bid this way and game is still on. I do not think that 3♥ does this hand justice. In some twisted scenarios we might even make slam, though that's far from realistic.
I like the bid of 3♣. It shows a good raise in hearts. With a very strong hand looking for a club stopper, instead bid one of our own suits. This approach fails if we don't have a suit to bid and also don't have a club stopper, i.e. a strong balanced hand with 5 diamonds, but that's rare. At the table I chose to be even more aggressive to show the club shortage, and I bid 4♣. In hindsight this was too aggressive, and 3♣ is better.
I have rotated the hands to make South declarer.
How do you like the auction, and the final contract?
West leads the ♣T, 1st/3rd/5th, and the trick proceeds 9-A-5. East now switches to the ♥2. Plan the play.
I like the bid of 3♣. It shows a good raise in hearts. With a very strong hand looking for a club stopper, instead bid one of our own suits. This approach fails if we don't have a suit to bid and also don't have a club stopper, i.e. a strong balanced hand with 5 diamonds, but that's rare. At the table I chose to be even more aggressive to show the club shortage, and I bid 4♣. In hindsight this was too aggressive, and 3♣ is better.
I have rotated the hands to make South declarer.
How do you like the auction, and the final contract?
West leads the ♣T, 1st/3rd/5th, and the trick proceeds 9-A-5. East now switches to the ♥2. Plan the play.
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