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Posted Yesterday, 18:31

Perhaps a little aggressive with this hand but it had me wondering, why not show the other 2 suits.



2D pass or correct, what else can it be?
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Posted Yesterday, 19:32

View Postjillybean, on 2025-May-20, 18:31, said:

Perhaps a little aggressive with this hand but it had me wondering, why not show the other 2 suits.



2D pass or correct, what else can it be?

It could be diamonds only. (Or would 2 the previous round be to play? I think it should be, but I am a voice in the wilderness.)
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Posted Yesterday, 19:38

View Postbluenikki, on 2025-May-20, 19:32, said:

It could be diamonds only. (Or would 2 the previous round be to play? I think it should be, but I am a voice in the wilderness.)

2 to play would work
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Posted Yesterday, 23:30

X pick a red suit
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Posted Today, 00:05

View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-May-20, 23:30, said:

X pick a red suit


Are you sure double is takeout not penalty?
Is your partner sure?
Is playing it as
penalty better on this auction?

Reminds me of a somewhat similar auction from past Monday at club with first time partner.

I doubled RHO in 3c as penalty
Passed back to RHO who bids 3H
I double again
Except this time partner pulls my penalty double and puts us in a failing contract.
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Posted Today, 01:33

View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-May-20, 23:30, said:

X pick a red suit

My rule is that doubles are penalty once we have tried to pass out the hand, so this would be a penalty double.

It may not be a perfect rule for all hands but it is simple and easy to apply.
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Posted Today, 01:58

X - T/O, and just do it.
As it is, even if p passes and given your huge defensive assets it makes, ... 2CX= is only 180,
you basically need a 50% chance to get it down.

Our rule is, if T/O still makes sense, it is T/O. And it makes sense as long as there are at least
two suits left to choose from and the X occurred at a low level.
In the given seq. 2D should be natural, common agreement set made it impossible to show diamonds
at the 2 level earlier, and a 2C would show inv. values .. pass did not deny values short of inv.
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Posted Today, 03:40

View Postmike777, on 2025-May-21, 00:05, said:

Are you sure double is takeout not penalty?
Is your partner sure?

Yep double definitely takeout.
I had two such calls on Monday with a first time partner one of which was passed out for penalty for a top when partner had their suit.
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