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Posted Yesterday, 17:54



Lead ♥A, feeling a little nervous after partner passed and before I saw dummy.

Pass explained as forces XX
Partner will bid 2♣ showing clubs and a major (2 suiter)
2♦ showing diamonds and spades
or pass, if he has values and think I will make 1nt
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Posted Yesterday, 18:19

If x and follow-ups are undiscussed, this seems a bit like psyching against robots.. you get great scores because they don't understand your system, but it doesn't feel very rewarding..
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Posted Yesterday, 18:51

I don't psych or play against robots byt I understand what you mean. I think this is just a learning curve players go through, both for myself and East/West.
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Posted Today, 03:38

I wonder why our 10-13nt is allowed in a Club game but Multi is banned from all but the top level events (ACBL)
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Posted Today, 04:08

View Postsmerriman, on 2025-March-13, 18:19, said:

If x and follow-ups are undiscussed, this seems a bit like psyching against robots.. you get great scores because they don't understand your system, but it doesn't feel very rewarding..

A mini no trump is not in the same class as more complex or obscure methods. It is reasonable to expect a pair to have discussed what a double of 1NT means, although few club players will have discussed the follow ups and sit there just hoping it never comes up.
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Posted Today, 04:10

View Postjillybean, on 2025-March-14, 03:38, said:

I wonder why our 10-13nt is allowed in a Club game but Multi is banned from all but the top level events (ACBL)

Because Multi is more obscure, there is no natural meaning for a double (that is, no known suit for a takeout double) and the disclosure of it (and continuations) is far worse.

The biggest reason is that no-one likes change.
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Posted Today, 05:18

View Postpaulg, on 2025-March-14, 04:10, said:

Because Multi is more obscure, there is no natural meaning for a double (that is, no known suit for a takeout double) and the disclosure of it (and continuations) is far worse.

The biggest reason is that no-one likes change.


I would ask the question why a 2 card club that is nearly forcing is considered natural but a multi is not allowed, just US methods vs non US methods.
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Posted Today, 06:04

I disagree, it's not North American methods, it is ACBL Policies.
The players who are content to play kitchen bridge at ACBL sanctioned games have a louder voice than others.

Although, this pair had no problem with our 10-13nt
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