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Ben on BBO - Feedback thread Discussions about Ben models trained on BBO data

#221 User is offline   xeno123 

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Posted 2025-September-14, 20:50

Ben seems to always treat 1NT-4NT as Blackwood instead of quantitative (despite descriptions claiming quantitative). So no way then to avoid ending up in 6NT.
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Posted 2025-September-21, 20:51

Not sure if this is a Ben issue or a me issue, but I'm having trouble understanding where Ben is coming from on this board Particularly the takeout of 1NTx into 2NT.
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Posted 2025-September-22, 16:20

View Postkcostell, on 2025-September-21, 20:51, said:

Not sure if this is a Ben issue or a me issue, but I'm having trouble understanding where Ben is coming from on this board Particularly the takeout of 1NTx into 2NT.


I came here to post about the exact same hand. I was speechless to be removed from 1N-X into 2N!
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Posted 2025-October-08, 17:40

Ben pulled my penalty redouble to a worse contract!



I would like to play 5xx with extra trump length but Ben pulled my penalty to 5, which ended up down 1 doubled due to bad trump split.
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Posted 2025-October-29, 04:50

Ben responds with a jump to 3 Diamond after his partners 1 Spade opening. This is supposed to be an Invitational non forcing with a 6+ Diamond suit.

Bens holding was 9 card running diamonds and no high cards in the other suits. That is a forcing 4 loosers hand by all means. The opening hand was a standard opening hand with no Diamond support. 3 Diamond +3 laydown.
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Posted 2025-November-05, 22:00

Ben decides to give a ruff-slough instead of collecting an extra trick.
https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/2rn5h39p
Fortuna Fortis Felix
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Posted 2025-November-09, 20:36

I had a recurrence of the problem I mentioned in my post of July 17: I bid 4NT after checking that the explanation was "quantitative invite to 6NT," but Ben then gave a Blackwood reply.

Here's the deal: https://tinyurl.com/544y8hz2
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Posted 2025-November-27, 19:36

Ben allowing me to make 3N-X with 18 combined hcp: https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/4sj2trbb

Partner Ben's 3D bid was also a bit puzzling, and I should probably bid 3H instead of passing after that (others just bid 3N after 3D in my spot, played it undoubled, and went down after a non hQ lead)
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Posted 2025-November-30, 03:14

View Postsuper69, on 2025-November-27, 19:36, said:

Ben allowing me to make 3N-X with 18 combined hcp: https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/4sj2trbb

Partner Ben's 3D bid was also a bit puzzling, and I should probably bid 3H instead of passing after that (others just bid 3N after 3D in my spot, played it undoubled, and went down after a non hQ lead)


oh, this looks really bad 😞
sorry about that.
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Posted 2025-December-13, 20:21

I had this auction last night with Ben:

Ben: AKJ7 / J74 / 987 / 863

Me (dealer): Q9 / AKQ932 / AQ2 / AQ

LHO Ben RHO Me
2C
2D X 2S 3H
P P(!) P

We made 6 for +230.

Can anyone explain Ben’s pass?

(My 3H was explained as “19+ HCP, 23+ total points”. Was I supposed to bid something else to show hearts?)
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Posted 2025-December-14, 03:55

On this hand: https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/2p9aye3b

Ben claimed all tricks at trick 7. I rejected because I did not see it.

It did have all tricks, but it proceeded to go down.

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Posted 2025-December-15, 19:44

Any reason why BEN chose 3NT with 4S in this hand?
https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/4dv69c5e
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Posted 2025-December-16, 03:38

View Postdiana_eva, on 2025-December-14, 03:55, said:

On this hand: https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/2p9aye3b

Ben claimed all tricks at trick 7. I rejected because I did not see it.

It did have all tricks, but it proceeded to go down.

It was a preposterous claim in absence of a stated line about how to tackle clubs. I do hope GiB's newfound claims ability is better than this (I have no idea, as it still refuses to claim when partnered with me against humans).
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Posted 2025-December-16, 05:16

View Postpescetom, on 2025-December-16, 03:38, said:

It was a preposterous claim in absence of a stated line about how to tackle clubs. I do hope GiB's newfound claims ability is better than this (I have no idea, as it still refuses to claim when partnered with me against humans).


We don't make GIB claim in human games, that is intentional.

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