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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2023-February-17, 13:35

Casual partnership at the club, nothing other than basic agreements, no bidding gymnastics please.
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“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
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Posted 2023-February-17, 13:51

Pass?

You decided, you have agreed to play NFB, you showed your hand.
Making a NFB is like making a preempt, you bid once, and only once,
unless forced.
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Posted 2023-February-17, 16:19

If you have nothing other than basic agreements, then 2 was insane, and you already got lucky. Negative free bids isn't a basic agreement.

Double the first time and hope you can bid 2 on the second round to say that you were too weak for an initial 2. If not, you've said enough.
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Posted 2023-February-17, 20:07



NFB?? There seems to be an unspoken agreement among players who just "bid their hand" that a 2 level bid in a competitive auction is not forcing.

How do you maintain your discipline, good bidding habits and composure? :)
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Posted 2023-February-17, 20:12

If they play 2 is nonforcing, then they need another bid to make when they have a good hand with hearts. Which is where NFB comes - you're forced to double or jump shift every time you have a good hand:

https://kwbridge.com/bb/nfb-1.htm

But it's a very different system from standard bidding, and not something you could ever play without agreements.

More likely, they're not playing this at all, and would bid 2 with anything, which of course isn't playable.
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Posted 2023-February-17, 20:44

Yes, I've had some fun with NFBs
There was a little sarcasm intended in my NFB??
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Posted 2023-February-18, 01:14

Hi,

the only question is, if North should bid 4H,and the answer is yes.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2023-February-18, 07:08

View PostP_Marlowe, on 2023-February-18, 01:14, said:

Hi,

the only question is, if North should bid 4H,and the answer is yes.

With kind regards
Marlowe

The other question being should N be allowed to show H support at the 4-level… W’s bid is...
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Posted 2023-February-18, 13:57

View Postjillybean, on 2023-February-17, 20:07, said:

How do you maintain your discipline, good bidding habits and composure? :)


Partnership discussion, written agreements, honest disclosure and cheerful acceptance of the consequences? :)
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Posted 2023-February-18, 22:31

2 was already an overbid. Having bid 2H, Partner's failure to bid 4 was an egregious error.Opps should be in 4S anyway.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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