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A nice ending Don't play it the way I did

#1 User is offline   pilowsky 

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Posted 2020-August-06, 00:28

13 people made 3NT+1 for 430 and 70%. I found 4-2 but it is makeable with a nice (imo) ending.
Here's the hand.

Here's the moment where it's makeable but I stuffed it up.
South to play and make 4 more tricks.

Edit - yes 5 Posted Image
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Posted 2020-August-06, 03:52

Q, Q overtaken, K, and you'll make 5 tricks rather than 4.
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Posted 2020-August-06, 04:17

View PostPeterAlan, on 2020-August-06, 03:52, said:

Q, Q overtaken, K, and you'll make 5 tricks rather than 4.


As the cards lie, but potentially embarrassing (give one hand Jx and the 3 spades). Basically anything where you retain the club ace after cashing Q and playing Q will do for 4 tricks as the cards lie, you can allow the Q to hold and exit a small club
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Posted 2020-August-06, 04:24

Please ignore: see Peter Alan's post below :(

Pilowsky "13 people made 3NT+1 for 430 and 70%. I found 4-2 but it is makeable with a nice (imo) ending. Here's the hand."
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Thank you, Pilowski :) Death defying 1st round finesse :)

Pilowsky "South to play and make 4 more tricks. Here's the moment where it's makeable but I stuffed it up."
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Five tricks, you mean. Interesting ending :) Difficult to get right :(
Declarer cashes Q and overtakes Q with dummy's K, squeezing East ...
A. If East retains more than 1 , then North exits in , immediately, end-playing West:
to give the remaining tricks to North or South.
B. If East keeps only 1 , then North cashes A, before end-playing West in s.

This post has been edited by nige1: 2020-August-06, 06:13

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Posted 2020-August-06, 05:07

View PostCyberyeti, on 2020-August-06, 04:17, said:

As the cards lie, but potentially embarrassing (give one hand Jx and the 3 spades).

I confess that I just gave a quick response to the double-dummy position, but I think you can always guarantee 4 tricks after W follows to Q and you overtake.

If E has followed to this (leaving the possibility that it retains J) then either:

  • you decide to play W for that card, as before (K, ), or

  • you accept 4 tricks by playing another without cashing K. If E wins this, then a return gives you all of dummy, so E returns its only . (At the start of the 6-card position, E held the 3 remaining s because of the 2 call, so 2s means singleton . Presumably E will have pitched a on Q.) If you duck this, then either E holds the trick and must play a or W overtakes and is endplayed in s. Covering minimally works too.

If W doesn't follow to Q you're guaranteed 5 tricks by overtaking and playing another , as E can't have a .

Nigel, I don't see how a possible squeeze on E needs to come into your picture. After , , , with W on lead there are only 2 cards left: a return gives the rest to dummy, and a 's into S's AJ.

Paul had already lost the and Aces, so needed 5 tricks for his contract.
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Posted 2020-August-06, 05:57

View Postnige1, on 2020-August-06, 04:24, said:

Thank you, Pilowski :) Death defying 1st round finesse :)



From the 2 bid I played West for the J - but yes, I was feeling pretty smug Posted Image. Also, I just discovered that the 'y' at the end of my name was a clerical error on my Father's birth certificate - Nige1. So I'll just have to lyve with it. c'est la vye.
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Posted 2020-August-06, 06:11


You are right Peter Alan. Sorry. I was mistaken :(
And sorry about misspelling your name, Pilowsky :(
Consolation: Nobody spells my name (Guthrie) correctly :(
Anyway, not a good start to the day :)

Pathetic attempt at recovery:
If the 5-card ending had been as on the left, with South on lead..
then 2 rounds of s squeeze East :)

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