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Balancing problem Would you bid?

Poll: What is your action? (35 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your action?

  1. Pass (14 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  2. double (5 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  3. 2S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 2NT (16 votes [45.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.71%

  5. 3H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 3NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   bridgeboy 

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Posted 2005-May-22, 11:31



Imps,
You open 1S, LHO overcalls 2H, pass pass to you.
Your bid?

Is it a clear choice?

We are playing Forcing Freebids over the 2H , just in case
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Posted 2005-May-22, 11:35

2NT no, I don't think it's clear. Pass is certainly an option.

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Posted 2005-May-22, 11:37

Pard is probably 2344 or 2245. Two shapes suited to a negative double. If he didn't double, he's very weak, so no game here. Pass.
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Posted 2005-May-22, 11:57

make sure i understand auction

1S (p) p (2H) and my bid?

if so, i have to pass... well i don't *have* to, but partner hasn't much.. maybe we can make more on defense
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Posted 2005-May-22, 11:59

Sorry, LHO overcalls... so bidding is

1S (2H) Pass (Pass)
?

Thanks a lot
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Posted 2005-May-22, 12:02

ahhh that's a little different.. now i double... if partner bids clubs, i bid 3NT... if he bids 2S i make a game try (2NT the way i play)
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Posted 2005-May-22, 15:08

2NT or Pass ( a very close 2nd choice)
Failure of partner to make negative double is an important consideration, but partner may not have a good enough hand to commit partnership to the 3-level opposite a minimum opener. I never bid enough, so this time I'll be aggressive. Minor suit T and J could be important cards. If partner has a blizzard, so I lose a few imps versus losing chance for a vulnerable game.
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Posted 2005-May-22, 15:24

bridgeboy, on May 22 2005, 12:31 PM, said:

Dealer: ?????
Vul: Both
Scoring: Unknown
♠ AJ652
♥ AKJ
♦ AJ2
♣ T2
 


Imps,
You open 1S, LHO overcalls 2H, pass pass to you.
Your bid?

Is it a clear choice?

We are playing Forcing Freebids over the 2H , just in case

Pass

Plug for Mexican 2D 18-19 balanced or many semi balanced hands.
1) makes your other auctions more constructive
2) Lose weak 2D, with those hands you must pass, or open lite 1D or weak 3D.
3) The Italians are playing it.
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Posted 2005-May-22, 18:01

Pass. I have the values for 2NT but no source of tricks. No I don't really think its close.
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Posted 2005-May-22, 19:36

I think I would double, bu it will leave me with an impossible guess next round probably, don't ask me waht would I do after pard bids 3♣ please.
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Posted 2005-May-22, 20:24

My brain tells me to pass and my heart tells me to double. :-)

So if it's IMPs, I pass, at MPs, I double. By this I mean I let my agressive nature come out more at MPs.
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Posted 2005-May-23, 04:23

2NT. But it's not clear. The Mexican 2♦ would be nice ON THIS HAND, but remember that every convention works well on the hands for which it was invented.
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Posted 2005-May-23, 08:17

2N. There are alot of hands partner couldn't bid with that produce game.
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Posted 2005-May-23, 15:08

Pass.
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Posted 2005-May-25, 14:33

I think I pass, the alternative would be 2S, especially,
if I tank to much.
Double will only result in a contract on the 3 level.
Which I do not really want to consider.

My spade suit is ugly, but I have compensation.

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Posted 2005-May-26, 03:50

An interesting problem is :

Do you play Lebensohl (2NT = weak (Xfer to ♣)
3m = Constructive) on this ?

1♠ (2♥) P (P)
X (P) ?
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Posted 2005-May-26, 04:57

Jlall, on May 23 2005, 09:17 AM, said:

2N. There are alot of hands partner couldn't bid with that produce game.

It's clearly OK, Justin, but don't you think that there are more good hands that RHO cannot bid on 2♥ ?

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Posted 2005-May-26, 07:47

If rho has some random 8 that couldnt bid on I don't think theres any chance he will X us. Therefore its much more of a disaster to miss a game than go down a few in 2N.
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Posted 2005-May-26, 09:29

joker_gib, on May 26 2005, 09:50 AM, said:

An interesting problem is :

Do you play Lebensohl (2NT = weak (Xfer to ♣)
3m = Constructive) on this ?

1♠ (2♥) P (P)
X (P) ?

Along the same line is:
do you play good-bad 2NT ?
E.g.
1♠ (2♥) P (P)

is now 2NT pupper to 3C ?
In this case, 2NT cannot be natural :-)
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Posted 2005-May-26, 09:32

2 schools of thought in auctions such as this. One is that 2N in these type of auctions should be scrambling, looking for the best fit, another is 2N should be lebensohl/goodbad. Also in this line of auctions is 1S X 2S 2N. I have always been a "strain over level" person (the right fit is more important than the right level) so I like scrambling but good/bad can be very useful too.
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