[Winstonm]

Scoring: IMP

Bidding:

N E S W
1S 3H ?

What is your action and reasoning for it?

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[Winstonm]

Scoring: IMP

Oops. Can't trust technology to fix your errors. Try it with 13 cards instead.

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[mike777]

Pass

Good Grief partner may have:
AKXXX
XX
AXX
XXX

If p reopens with takeout x, will jump to 5C since we are vul and opp are not.
Why? Takeout doubles are for takeout. Partner should not have a wk nt hand or 14-16 balanced hand with 5 spades.

[whereagles]

Hum.. I think I pass. If pard passes this too, I probably can't make a thing. If he balances 3♠ (80% chance or so), I can try 3NT now.

[Free]

Pass, we can still play 3NT if p bids again.

[pclayton]

Yes - pass, fully realizing that 3N or many clubs may be possible. File this under "preempts work".

[Double !]

Call 911 !

Ok, I pass.
I have no clear action, no fit, passing may be only way for plus score, and I have a great partner whom I trust completely, without reservation. He will know the right thing to do in the balancing seat.

[beatrix45]

PASS

Let the opponents play the misfit hands.

Partner's most likely distribution is 6-2-3-2. So if you (ugh) double, you are likely to hear 3 ♠. Now what? Come to think of it, an immediate 3NT would be better. At least you might make that, or go down four.

[P_Marlowe]

3NT.

Ugly.

This depends a lot on your opening style,
in case you open solid, you probably have
game.
You wont feel comfortable, when partner bids
4S, assuming rightful, that you hold 2 cards.
but thats is.

Pass is an option as well, but if you tank, and
I would tank, partner will be under hard pressure,
because, most of the time Pass will be an LA.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[luis]

3NT shouldn't be a complete disaster but it can be :-)

[Echognome]

I think Marlowe brings up a good point. I certainly applaud the in tempo passers. It would be difficult at the table when you are thinking of your bid if RHO passes (1NT? (forcing or not), 2♣ if SAYC or Acol?) and what you are going to do if Partner bids X number of spades. Then, RHO jams 3♥ into the auction and if you can come out of that with an in tempo pass... perfect. If you huddle, then you have a really tough problem, to which 3NT may be the solution. Partner still may bid 4♠. The advantage of passing is that you are more likely to find 3NT when it's right.

[Winstonm]

Two Questions:

1) In what ways do you feel this hand is flawed for a negative or card showing double, and in what ways would it need to be changed to make it such?

2) Should a negative double at this level for the minors be a game invitation or simply showing enough values to play at the 4-level?

winstonm

[Fluffy]

3NT or double and correct 3♠ to 3NT, I guess 3NT directly is better.

[mike777]

Winstonm, on May 23 2005, 04:49 PM, said:

Two Questions:

1) In what ways do you feel this hand is flawed for a negative or card showing double, and in what ways would it need to be changed to make it such?

2) Should a negative double at this level for the minors be a game invitation or simply showing enough values to play at the 4-level?

winstonm

1) I passed because p can have a really junky hand. Would expect them to reopen with extra hcp or shape. My void in partner's suit really scares me off but not others I see. Having more QJ than AK scares me off but not others.

2) I think any bid over 3h should be game force, that includes x. IMHO, trying to get out in 4 of a minor should be a very low priority in any bidding system.

[luke warm]

looks like i'm the only one who doubles here... pull 3S to 3NT, treat 4m as rkc if partner plays that way

[mikestar]

I can pass these in tempo quite easily--worth them prempting it is very likely that partner has at least six spades. This makes my psade void worse than worhtless. And though QJx of their suit is a good stopper, it certainly isn't worth a full 3 points in trick taking power.

So I have 10 HCP, 3 of which aren't pulling full weight and no really usable shape due to the spade void. It is not even a temptation unless we are playing Roth Stone.

This leaves it under strenght for a takeout double requiring a bid at the four level as well. The double has no alternate way to win if it doesn't lead to a making contract, as partner will not be able to leave it in on a misfit--his hearts will be to short and weak.

[civill]

pass;
Direct 3NT and dbl are not suitable,wait for the next turn.

[civill]

pass;
Direct 3NT and dbl are not suitable,wait for the next turn.