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ew is vulnerable
ns is not vulnerable
Would you open this hand in first seat?
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Posted 2019-April-02, 09:47
ew is vulnerable
ns is not vulnerable
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Posted 2019-April-02, 10:04
yes, not close
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2019-April-02, 10:13
I'll open it -- 2 QTs and a 12 count with some intermediates, not even close.
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Posted 2019-April-02, 10:15
There are a few 12 counts I won't open ( passed Jxxx Q109 Axxx KQ vul in 3rd quite recently rather than open a weak NT) but not many. This is an automatic opening for me.
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Posted 2019-April-02, 18:08
I open
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Posted 2019-April-02, 18:27
Searching for that rare unanimous poll?
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Posted 2019-April-02, 19:52
Yes, unless I was playing Roth Stone 
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Posted 2019-April-03, 00:01
phoenixmj, on 2019-April-02, 09:47, said:
ew is vulnerable
ns is not vulnerable
Automatic. You have easy rebids no matter what partner responds and a 12 count.
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Posted 2019-April-03, 01:18
Soir,And why not ? 12HCP.No wasted points(except perhaps CQ .We don't consider it wasted). 2 honor tricks and only 6 losers,Good support in 3 suits.One does not need any thing more.Easy rebid is an added virtue.
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Posted 2019-April-03, 01:30
Easy 1NT for us.
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Posted 2019-April-03, 02:07
If playing a 12-14 1NT, yes. But I wouldn't be overly sanguine about it.
If playing a 15-17 1NT, yes, 1C. Easy rebid over anything pard bids.
If playing a 15-17 1NT, yes, 1C. Easy rebid over anything pard bids.
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Posted 2019-April-03, 02:39
1D playing a strong NT, not even close.
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Posted 2019-April-03, 04:26
One diamond, then 1NT over partner's one spade response. Two quick tricks, twelve high card points, no reason not to open.
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Posted 2019-April-03, 07:36
I evaluate this hand like this
12 HCP so far so good
No aces that is a minus deduct a point
touching honours in the red suits thats a plus back to 12 again. 2 3 4 4 shape is poor but the points are in the long suits and no wasteage in spades so we break even again.
So we have bare opening and the quetion now is
what happens if you open 1D and partner says 1H ?
You are asking for trouble bidding 1NT with a doubleton spade
and 2C sound 5 4 in the minors.
If you have an agreement with partner that you can raise hearts with 3 then you can open. But you cannot spring a 3 card raise on him without prior agreement
If you don't then I think pass is best and wait developments
Of course if it goes 1D 1S then you have a easy 1NT and everyone will wonder why if you pass in the first place
12 HCP so far so good
No aces that is a minus deduct a point
touching honours in the red suits thats a plus back to 12 again. 2 3 4 4 shape is poor but the points are in the long suits and no wasteage in spades so we break even again.
So we have bare opening and the quetion now is
what happens if you open 1D and partner says 1H ?
You are asking for trouble bidding 1NT with a doubleton spade
and 2C sound 5 4 in the minors.
If you have an agreement with partner that you can raise hearts with 3 then you can open. But you cannot spring a 3 card raise on him without prior agreement
If you don't then I think pass is best and wait developments
Of course if it goes 1D 1S then you have a easy 1NT and everyone will wonder why if you pass in the first place
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Posted 2019-April-03, 07:46
mdgraham, on 2019-April-03, 02:07, said:
If playing a 12-14 1NT, yes. But I wouldn't be overly sanguine about it.
If playing a 15-17 1NT, yes, 1C. Easy rebid over anything pard bids.
If playing a 15-17 1NT, yes, 1C. Easy rebid over anything pard bids.
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Posted 2019-April-03, 07:47
Obvious opening. Not even close.
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Posted 2019-April-03, 08:07
that opening isn't 100% on the vote is absolutely bizarre
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2019-April-03, 09:09
I don't open balanced 12 counts. However I played with a partner who used any excuse to open for about a year. After every game, I reviewed the hand records and noted our result, and the top for the board, for every board where we had the option of bidding or passing a balanced 12 count. I entered them into a spreadsheet.
On the hands that I passed we averaged 55%. On the hands where partner opened we averaged 38%.
Does anybody else have any statistics?
On the hands that I passed we averaged 55%. On the hands where partner opened we averaged 38%.
Does anybody else have any statistics?
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Posted 2019-April-03, 09:23
sigh no and do not expect much sympathy from the "its just too stinking boring to pass crowd". I do not see the benefits. I do not wish to encourage a weak partner to bid 2s I have ZERO quick tricks (aces) or SPOTS. I would not even game force opposite a 3rd seat opener so all in all silence seems to be the best choice OH and did I mention no good lead directing bid? let me see what else can I complain about:) I open balanced 12 counts a lot but not these boring aimless 12 counts.
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Posted 2019-April-03, 09:48
gszes, on 2019-April-03, 09:23, said:
sigh no and do not expect much sympathy from the "its just too stinking boring to pass crowd". I do not see the benefits. I do not wish to encourage a weak partner to bid 2s I have ZERO quick tricks (aces) or SPOTS. I would not even game force opposite a 3rd seat opener so all in all silence seems to be the best choice OH and did I mention no good lead directing bid? let me see what else can I complain about:) I open balanced 12 counts a lot but not these boring aimless 12 counts.
1N in first seat for me, has the advantage that often enough, you will play 1N=/-1 vs 2♠= where they don't want to overcall 2♠ in second seat, but would overcall 1♠ over 1m.
And Gordon's auction is the reason you open 1♦ rather than 1♣.