[plaur]

I am quite insecure about autions like this
1X- 2Y - p - p
? - p - ?

Im am going from the following definition, which is from the Danish beginner system Bridgevejen(4 card major acol like system), taught to most beginners in Denmark:

When I choose not to a bid a negative x, I *expect* opener to reopen with an x! Opener could choose not to x if:
1) she has length in the bid suit
2) or she has a hand not suitable for defense (bid a suit)

How do you like this definition?
Would pickup partners on BBO play by this?
Any good links to texts on negative bids for beginners in SAYC?

Thanks

[Walddk]

Excellent treatment. Opener should always reopen if short in the suit overcalled, unless, as you point out, her hand has no defence and doesn't want to sit for a penalty if partner passes. Something like

KQJ976
4
KJ954
7

1♠ (2♥) pass pass
2♦

It's quite likely that partner has a penalty of 2♥, but you don't want to cooperate and rebid 2♦. That is a warning against defending, and partner must remember.

This hand will obviously pass:

KQ1054
AJ4
K84
108

Partner can't have a trap pass.

I think this treatment is universal and has little, if anything, to do with the system you play.

Roland

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I agree with Roland, but would weaken his example hand a
little bit further, i.e. I would also pass with

KQ1054
AJ
K84
108x

In other words, opener should always look very hard at his holding
in the overcalled suit, and ask himself, can partner have a trap pass,
or is he just weak. (*)

Even a holding like Kx in the overcalled suit would be an
indicator not to reopen, at least playing IMP's.

This gets more important if, the overcalled suit is spade, i.e.

1H - (2S) - (Pass) - (Pass)
???

because now, you dont have the possibility to play on the 2 level.

With kind regards
Marlowe

(*) Knowing your opponents helps of course more, if they are regular
overcalling on crap, you should reopen with a holding like AJ in their suit.

[EricK]

Walddk, on Apr 19 2005, 08:12 AM, said:

Something like

KQJ976
4
KJ954
7

1♠ (2♥) pass pass
2♦

It's quite likely that partner has a penalty of 2♥, but you don't want to cooperate and rebid 2♦. That is a warning against defending, and partner must remember.

Whatever you consider partner's hand to be, I doubt it is correct to make an insufficient bid.

Eric

[Walddk]

EricK, on Apr 19 2005, 01:04 PM, said:

Whatever you consider partner's hand to be, I doubt it is correct to make an insufficient bid.

Eric

OK then, 2♦ is certainly best under the circumstances, but let's change it to 2♠

Roland