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Has U.S. Democracy Been Trumped? Bernie Sanders wants to know who owns America?

#13421 User is offline   johnu 

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Posted 2019-August-15, 13:51

Those bastards in the DOJ and Customs and Border Patrol :(

Judges Nix Trump Admin Appeal Claiming Some Migrant Kids May Not Need Soap

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“Assuring that children eat enough edible food, drink clean water, are housed in hygienic facilities with sanitary bathrooms, have soap and toothpaste, and are not sleep-deprived are without doubt essential to the children’s safety,” the panel wrote.

This was in response to DOJ claiming imprisoned children did not need soap, toothbrushes and toothpaste, or even beds for "short" stays up to 20 days.

These government SOB's bring shame on all of America.
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Posted 2019-August-15, 14:29

Israel denies Omar and Tlaib entry after Trump tweet

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Israel on Thursday announced that it would deny Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) entry during an upcoming overseas trip, citing the lawmakers' past comments critical of the country.

The decision was announced moments after President Trump tweeted that it would show "great weakness" for Israel to allow the two congresswomen into the country, calling them a “disgrace.”

The ultra right fringe, authoritarian Netanyahu government and the Manchurian President (no additional adjectives required) have had an unholy alliance since the 2016 inauguration and have done their best to destroy the possibility of Palestinian peace talks. When Democrats take back the White House, the new President and Congress should thoroughly review whether the US-Israel alliance needs to be drastically updated.
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Posted 2019-August-15, 17:41

Yet another WTF moment

Trump has asked aides about possibility of US acquiring Greenland: report

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President Trump has privately asked aides about the possibility of purchasing Greenland, an autonomous Danish territory, the Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.

Two advisers told the Journal that Trump asked them and other advisers at dinners and in passing conversations whether such a move would be possible, listening intently when they talked about its resources and geopolitical importance.

He also reportedly asked his White House counsel to look into the idea.

There is no confirmation that the Trump Ice Corporation has plans to expand into Greenland :rolleyes:
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Posted 2019-August-15, 19:16

Wow :rolleyes:

Trump Suggests Building More Mental Institutions To Curb Gun Violence

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“I think we have to start building institutions again,” he added, saying that mental institutions were closed in the 1960s and 1970s and “the people were just allowed to just go onto the streets ― that was a terrible thing for our country.”

“We have to open up institutions ― we can’t let these people be on the streets,” he added.

Editorial note: We can save time and money by turning the White House into a mental institution. We should have mental institutions located where there is the most serious mental illness.
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Posted 2019-August-16, 03:11

View Postjohnu, on 2019-August-15, 17:41, said:


This makes perfect sense in the context of returning America to the 1950s. At that time the primary NATO defence to Soviet submarines was blockading the GIUK Gap, which is the common name for the narrow strip of waters either side of Iceland between Greenland and the UK. The 1950s is when America was last great, right? So anything relating to 1950s policy must also be great.

On a more serious note, global warming means that the land rights in southern Greenland are likely to increase in value rapidly. There was a successful Viking colony there throughout the Medieval Warm Period and it is unlikely that temperatures will drop below those levels any time soon. From the perspective of a property developer I can absolutely see the possible attraction; from a Danish perspective not so much.
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Posted 2019-August-16, 12:45

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Fox Business Network host Lou Dobbs is defending a Rhode Island detention center guard who accelerated his truck into a line of anti-Immigration and Customs Enforcement protesters and allegedly left one with a broken leg, claiming he was “within his rights.”

During his Thursday night broadcast, Dobbs ― a fervent supporter of President Donald Trump, who regularly tunes into his show ― spoke with former ICE acting director Tom Homan, the two echoing each other’s praise for the embattled agency.

“I know that it must just gladden your heart to see a bunch of demonstrators at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility blocking the path of a guard and then are complaining about the fact that he sought to do what is within his rights, which is to proceed to park his vehicle and go to work,” Dobbs told Homan.


Welcome to 1968-1970.

Ice soldiers and Donald coming
we're finally on our own
This summer I hear the drumming
bones broken on Isle of Rhodes

Gotta get down to it
Ice is running them down
Should've been banned long ago
What if you knew them
and found them dead on the ground
Would you still watch the show?
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Posted 2019-August-16, 12:59

One of the most overweight presidents in US history has this to say

Trump Mocks Own Supporter as Overweight: ‘Serious Weight Problem. Go Home, Start Exercising!’

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During a 2020 reelection rally in New Hampshire, President Donald Trump mistook one of his large adult supporters for (actually thin) protesters being escorted out and then mocked his appearance: “That guy has a serious weight problem. Go home, start exercising!”

Breaking away from the rally as the protesters were led out, Fox News’ Martha MacCallum could be heard chuckling on air as Trump made fun of someone’s weight. “An insult for somebody who was just taken out of there, a protester,” she said.

Right on cue, a Fox Propaganda (bad) personality piled on after the fact.

The irony of calling out a person for being overweight is lost on the Blimp in Chief.

Since America (and much of the rest of the world) has a serious problem with obesity, people usually gain weight as they get older, and the largest Republican party support comes from the elderly, he's basically insulting a significant portion of his own supporters. I wonder how many of his overweight supporters at the rally cheered his comments without having the self-awareness that he was also insulting them.
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Posted 2019-August-16, 13:26

View Postjohnu, on 2019-August-15, 17:41, said:

Yet another WTF moment

Trump has asked aides about possibility of US acquiring Greenland: report

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President Trump has privately asked aides about the possibility of purchasing Greenland, an autonomous Danish territory, the Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.

Two advisers told the Journal that Trump asked them and other advisers at dinners and in passing conversations whether such a move would be possible, listening intently when they talked about its resources and geopolitical importance.

He also reportedly asked his White House counsel to look into the idea.

There is no confirmation that the Trump Ice Corporation has plans to expand into Greenland :rolleyes:


Greenland responds

Greenland To Donald Trump: ‘We’re Not For Sale’

I don't want to put any ideas into the Conspirator in Chief's overcrowded head, but Australia is the biggest island in the world (ok, technically a continent, but is sure looks like an island). Why would the US "settle" for having the 2nd largest island in the world when it could have the largest??? And why would the US have to get involved. The Trump Organization could print a few billion shares of stock worth zillions of dollars for a (very) hostile takeover of the land down under.
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Posted 2019-August-16, 18:00

Quote of the week:

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“What is the one mantra of the pro-Israel organizations for 30, 40 years?” asked William Kristol, a conservative critic of Mr. Trump who fought Mr. Obama’s policies toward Israel. “It’s congressional support. Presidents have their own views, but Congress is the core. So to pick a fight with members of Congress, which is going to force half of Congress to rally to their defense, is really foolish.”

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Posted 2019-August-16, 21:21

Another truly WTF moment

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid

Why were all those union members at Shell showing up for a political rally?

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The choice for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant in Beaver County was clear Tuesday: Either stand in a giant hall waiting for President Donald Trump to speak or take the day off with no pay.

“Your attendance is not mandatory,” said the rules that one contractor relayed to employees, summarizing points from a memo that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site. But only those who showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their ID cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid.

“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” a supervisor for that contractor wrote.


OK, so technically they weren't required to attend the Manchurian President's campaign rally, but if they didn't attend, they wouldn't get paid for the day. I don't know about you, but very few working people I know can afford to lose an entire day's paycheck.
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Posted 2019-August-17, 01:12

One of the great memories of all time -

Trump May Have Confused Framed Gettysburg Address For A Michigan Man Of The Year Award

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But former GOP Rep. Dave Trott told Michigan Live and CNN on Friday that he thinks he knows what Trump is talking about. He had invited Trump in 2013 to be the keynote speaker at the Oakland County Republican Party’s Lincoln Day Dinner in Michigan. At the event, Trott presented Trump with a tie, a statuette of Abraham Lincoln and a framed copy of President Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address. But Trott says there was no man of the year award

Trump gave a “rambling speech touching every topic under the sun” but didn’t receive any awards, Trott, who was chairman of the event, told Michigan Live.

“There was no Michigan man of the year award,” Trott said, according to Crain’s Detroit Business. “There was certainly nothing like that bestowed upon him.”

The Liar in Chief has one of the great minds in modern history. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was confusing the Man of the Year Award with the golf tournament trophy from one of his clubs that he didn't even play in.

I don't think it would be appropriate to say that the Manchurian President may be displaying signs of d-e-m-e-n-t-i-a so I have spelled it out.
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Posted 2019-August-17, 08:28

Guest post from Colbert King:

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Life is short. So, don’t waste it trying to prove President Trump is a racist, a bigot or a white supremacist.

“If You Don’t Know Me by Now,” the rhythm-and-blues song by Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes, is instructive. If by now minds haven’t been made up about Trump’s repugnant racism and religious intolerance, nothing said or done from this moment on will make a difference.

The sad truth is that with all that Trump has said and done, millions of Americans don’t see where he has ever crossed the line.

Slurring Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists? Calling for a ban on all Muslims coming into the country? Suggesting that a U.S.-born judge overseeing a Trump University lawsuit should recuse himself because of his Mexican heritage (“He’s a Mexican,” Trump said)? Saying people in the United States from Nigeria will never “go back to their huts”? Referring to Haiti and African countries as “s---hole countries” while wishing the United States would take more people from places like Norway? Tweeting that four black and brown members of Congress — three of them born in the United States — should “go back” to their countries of origin? Launching a slimy birther crusade against President Barack Obama? Constantly resorting to racially charged language?

What about those acts, you might ask? Shouldn’t they prompt folks in Trump’s camp to start striking their tents?

The answer might be found in an interview that NBC affiliate WWBT in Richmond conducted during the 2016 presidential campaign with a man identified only as the “Imperial Wizard of the Rebel Brigade of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.” Declaring his support for Republican candidate Trump, the imperial wizard said: “The reason a lot of Klan members like Donald Trump is because a lot of what he believes, we believe in.”

What he believes in, they believe in. Trump’s loyal base of supporters rejects or ignores any charge of bias. They stay locked in, because they see things his way; he is speaking for them.

So, don’t waste time trying to convince them that Trump has a dark side.

They have heard what you heard; have seen what you’ve seen. The difference: They delight in the Trump thoughts, words and deeds that you denounce.

The dark side is with them.

The America in which Trump grew up so comfortable has changed.

Today’s women of color are more than servants, maids and nannies. Or staff put on the payroll to serve white bosses. These women demand to be taken seriously — as mayors, members of Congress, journalists, business executives, corporate directors, artists, writers, teachers. Some of them also wear hijabs.

Gone is the day when nonthreatening roles of entertainer, athlete and general helper were regarded as natural and inevitable stations in black and brown lives.

Buffoons, criminals and workers in the kitchen are within Trump’s comfort zone. They can be handled.

People of color, rich in knowledge and experience, and with nerve to stand up and talk back?

That’s a bridge too far.

Which gets back to the main point. Trump is what he is. There’s the no small matter of all the rest.

It is the Greenville, N.C., crowd chanting “send her back” that cannot be ignored.

Look closely: Among them are managers, shop owners, real estate agents, police officers and sheriff’s deputies, bosses, foremen — people whose day jobs affect people of color.

Within the ranks of Trump’s “Make America Great Again” disciples are people who believe he is all that stands between them and an earthly perdition where their version of Christianity is on the ropes. That helps explain why they cheer Trump on when he moves against the LGBTQ community, makes life miserable for “invaders” along the southern border and when he launches ugly racist attacks on women of color, oh yeah, and slurring that black congressman from Baltimore who dressed down a white federal bureaucrat over the treatment of detained migrant children. Put him in his place.

It doesn’t bother them at all when Trump resorts to racist, sexist and religiously intolerant tropes in his onslaughts.

Face it. They helped put — and are now fighting like mad to keep — a prejudiced president in the White House. What does that say about them?

What does it say about the rest of us if we let them? Forget labeling; spend the time we have left on the political effort to rid the White House of that problem.

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Posted 2019-August-17, 09:13

Using the power of the federal government against political enemies: Number 89 in the articles of impeachment.

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President Trump took to Twitter on Saturday to say he is considering having the antifascist protest group known as antifa designated a “organization of terror.” The president’s tweet singling out antifa comes as far-right groups plan to rally against protests in Portland, Oregon later in the day. In a tweet, the president said “major consideration” was being given to designating the collection of left-wing groups a terrorist organization, adding, “Portland is being watched very closely. Hopefully the Mayor will be able to properly do his job!” City authorities had warned they feared violence at the rally—as well as clashes between antifascists and right-wing protesters—after conservative organizers made social media posts reading “death to antifa” and “get your gun license.” It was unclear Saturday morning how volatile the protests would become, but arrests and groups dropping out in recent days have complicated things.


Yet the House lets him do this over and over and over. Come on, Nadler, you don't need Pelosi's permission.
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Posted 2019-August-17, 11:00

It's not just Trump - it's the entire party of the NRRA (National Republican Rifle Association):

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Congressional Republicans recently circulated talking points on gun violence that falsely described the El Paso massacre and other mass shootings as “violence from the left.”

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Posted 2019-August-17, 15:09

FEC chair challenges Trump to provide evidence of voter fraud in New Hampshire

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The Democratic chairwoman of the Federal Election Commission on Friday challenged President Donald Trump to provide evidence of the voter fraud he insists cost him New Hampshire in 2016 or quit talking about it.

In a letter to Trump, Ellen Weintraub said the country's democracy depends on "the American people's faith in our elections. Your voter-fraud allegations run the risk of undermining that faith."

Weintraub's missive came a day after Trump complained to reporters — and to his supporters at a rally in Manchester, New Hampshire — that he had narrowly lost the Granite State because of fraudulent voting, a claim for which there is no evidence.

Of course, Putin's candidate has no evidence because he is repeating one of his 12,000 documented lies that he has told since he was elected.

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Weintraub said Trump should provide his evidence to the public and the appropriate law enforcement authorities.

"To put in terms a former casino operator should understand," she wrote, "there comes a time when you need to lay your cards on the table or fold."

A slight correction to Weintraub's statement. As a former casino operator, the Grifter in Chief would declare bankruptcy after stripping all the cash assets from the casino and pocketing them in his personal account.
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Posted 2019-August-17, 19:25

From Neil Irwin at NYT:

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There won't necessarily be a recession in 2020. But if there is, this is how it will happen.

In short: a capital spending downturn spurred by the trade war and global forces, exacerbated by high corporate debt and inadequate government response.

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Posted 2019-August-17, 21:13

View Postjohnu, on 2019-August-16, 12:59, said:

The irony of calling out a person for being overweight is lost on the Blimp in Chief.

If Trump had any sense of irony, his head would have exploded a long time ago.

Actually, I should just have ended that after "If Trump had any sense".

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Posted 2019-August-18, 07:58

View Posty66, on 2019-August-17, 19:25, said:

From Neil Irwin at NYT:


IMO, the writer sounds like the same old supply-sider whose belief is that investment spurs demand. But reality shows that businesses respond to demand; they do not create it.
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Posted 2019-August-18, 13:59

One of the "very fine people" thanks the Manchurian President

Proud Boys Deem Portland A Success Because Trump Sided With Right-Wing Extremists

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A former Infowars staffer who organized the Proud Boys protest in Portland Saturday deemed the “mission” a success because President Donald Trump sided with the right-wing extremist group against the anti-fascists.

Of course, the Racist and Bigot in Chief did not have a single bad word to say about the Proud Boys.

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The Proud Boys organization has been characterized as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its spread of white nationalism, misogyny and Islamophobia. Several members of the group were charged last year in an attack in Manhattan on anti-fascists.

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Posted 2019-August-18, 14:09

View PostWinstonm, on 2019-August-14, 08:21, said:

So, as it turns out the economy is not as great as promoted , and now is signaling a normal recession.



I wonder if the religious right who support him will still give an Amen when that happens?


Of course, the Con Man in Chief's economic team disagrees 100%

Top Trump Economic Adviser Larry Kudlow Sees ‘No Recession In Sight’

Very reassuring that a giant in the field of economics ( :lol: at least in the Fox Propaganda world ) has such confidence that there will not be a recession.

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Kudlow’s assurances about the strength of the U.S. economy haven’t always panned out, however, as Todd noted in his interview with the former television host on Sunday. For example, shortly before the Great Recession began in 2007 Kudlow wrote: “There’s no recession coming … the pessimistas were wrong. It’s not going to happen ... The Bush boom is alive and well. It’s finishing up its sixth consecutive year with more to come. Yes, it’s still the greatest story never told.”

In defense of Kudlow, what are the odds that he could be wrong about when the next recession is coming twice in a row? :rolleyes:
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