[jerdonald]

BBO forum,

Playing 2/1 I had this hand when partner opened 1 Club.

S. A5
H. 74
D. AJ982
C. AQ74

I bid 2 diamonds showing at least 15 points, 5 diamonds and
no interest in majors. This is by partnership agreement.

Partner bid 3 clubs. I want to know if partner has a heart
stopper to see if we can get to 3NT. How do I do that?

Jerry D

[eagles123]

would've thought that 3s shows spade stop and by implication asks for heart stop but I have to say I really dislike the methods

Eagles

[neilkaz]

It is normal when two stops are missing to bid the stopper you have. 3♠ also might put you on the road to a ♣ slam.

[Zelandakh]

You have to decide whether you show or ask in auctions of this type. As others have already mentioned, standard is to show although there is a (very) small theoretical advantage to asking. Asking does involve making certain further changes though so it is not quite as simple as switching the normal meanings. In the end, as long as both are on the same page it will not usually be important.

[jerdonald]

BBO forum,
Thanks for the replies.

I have one more question about this hand. Does my partner have to alert
my 2 diamond bid over her 1 club opener?

Jerry D.

[Vampyr]

 jerdonald, on 2015-March-23, 18:21, said:

BBO forum,
Thanks for the replies.

I have one more question about this hand. Does my partner have to alert
my 2 diamond bid over her 1 club opener?

Jerry D.

You need to tell your jurisdiction to get an answer to this.

I think that in the EBU your SJS is not far enough from the "normal" range to require an alert.

[jerdonald]

Vampyr,
This would be under ACBL jurisdiction.

Jerry D.

[kenberg]

I wouldn't think that a gane forcing jump shift is alterable but if it explicitly denies a major then maybe so. I am assuming that the support for clubs is not part of the agreement, that responder might well have long diamonds and no interest in any other suit,

As to the original question, I also would think that 3S over 3C shows a spade control so I would bid 3S. but here is a question: If your 2D denied an interest in the majors and if opener had long clubs and a heart stop, might he not already have bid 2H over 2D? What are we to make of the fact that he did not do so? If, say, he had the ace of hearts and a six card club suit, he might have bid 2H and then, if you bid 2NT, and then raised to 3NT to play NT or pulled 2NT to 3C. This could show a hand with good clubs, a heart control, and doubts about 3NT based either on lot's of shape or on a possibility of 6C.

Back to alerting: If your 2D bid showed such a disinterest in the majors that your partner would freely bid 2H to show a stop rather than a suit, then you might owe the opponents an explanation at the end of the auction. Alerting 2D is a bit tricky since it might be construed as a way of alerter telling his partner to take 2H over 2D with a grain or two of salt. I would be interested in hearing the views of directors on this.

[1eyedjack]

As to the original question, I would say that there could be a variety of solutions that just require agreement. If you are going to develop your own bespoke systems, then you would normally expect to develop the follow-up sequences. Or at least it does not make a lot of sense to create your own bespoke system up to a certain point and then ask a stranger what are the subsequent follow-ups from a range of valid possibilities. One question that you should be considering is what would be meant by the various possible first rebids by opener, including 2M rebid opposite a responder who has denied major suit interest, which would have a knock-on implication for the meaning of the 3C choice adopted and ongoing continuations

[zillahandp]

In Uk no alert if you were weak it does, nekthen and kalandseit please note as per acol club ruling