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GIB bids its suits in the wrong order when responding to takeout double

#1 User is offline   goffster 

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Posted 2015-March-06, 17:27

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GIB should bid 2S the first time.
It can then bid 3H in competition later.

It will look awfully silly in the original bidding to be
at 3 level in a 7 card fit.
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#2 User is offline   Stephen Tu 

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Posted 2015-March-06, 17:51

Given partner is a passed hand it should probably cue bid.

Don't know why GIB doesn't want to try opening 3rd seat. IMO 11 hcp + singleton + both majors = clear opener.
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Posted 2015-March-06, 17:52

No,I disagree.
If doubler can't promise 4-4 majors at least,why can it make double bid in the passed hand?
If doubler really hold 4-3 majors in the passed hand,it will look awfully silly.
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#4 User is offline   Stephen Tu 

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Posted 2015-March-06, 18:00

View Postlycier, on 2015-March-06, 17:52, said:

No,I disagree.
If doubler can't promise 4-4 majors at least,why can it make double bid in the passed hand?
If doubler does hold 4-3 majors in the passed hand,it will look awfully silly.


(1) What's wrong with getting spades in the picture? What if East tried double on 5431 with bad spades, maybe you want to be in the 9 cd fit which is better able to stand bad breaks?
(2) It could well be plus EV to double on some 4351 type shapes. Don't think you have to be so dogmatic that takeout double by passed hand 100% guarantee 4-4 majors.

Even if you think double guarantees 4-4M, I don't see any advantage in West concealing the spades and not cue bidding with equal length, knowledge of the double fit can help in deciding whether to bid again over further competition.
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Posted 2015-March-06, 20:01

View PostStephen Tu, on 2015-March-06, 17:51, said:

Don't know why GIB doesn't want to try opening 3rd seat. IMO 11 hcp + singleton + both majors = clear opener.
Agreed. East has a first-seat opener, never mind third.
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Posted 2015-March-06, 20:11

And another instance of GIB seeming to forget that a finesse worked. At Trick 7, cash Q, ruff J, lead low , claim your contract.
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