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1) Would you Open: 1D or 1C ??
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J 10 x x x x
A K Q J 10
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2) Let's say it goes:
1D - ( 1H ) - p - ( 4H )
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Would you now bid 5C ??
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What to Open ? 1D or 1C ?
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Posted 2014-July-18, 17:14
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Posted 2014-July-18, 17:24
Yes
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Posted 2014-July-18, 17:24
1) 1♦
2) yes
2) yes
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Posted 2014-July-18, 19:38
Does not seem close here.
Open 1♦. Rebid 5♣.
Clearly you see all the problems that arise if you start 1♣, don't you?
Of course you will hate it if you end up defending (doubled no doubt) and partner's 4th best♦ is swallowed up by dummy's single Q while a small♣ goes away on declarer's A.
C'est la vie.
Open 1♦. Rebid 5♣.
Clearly you see all the problems that arise if you start 1♣, don't you?
Of course you will hate it if you end up defending (doubled no doubt) and partner's 4th best♦ is swallowed up by dummy's single Q while a small♣ goes away on declarer's A.
C'est la vie.
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Posted 2014-July-18, 23:52
opening 1♣ would indicate that I miss-sorted my hand. This is in the wrong forum, at least on that question. It belongs in the novice section.
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Posted 2014-July-19, 07:45
mikeh, on 2014-July-18, 23:52, said:
opening 1♣ would indicate that I miss-sorted my hand. This is in the wrong forum, at least on that question. It belongs in the novice section.
Well, this hand was played in a BBO tourney by a friend of mine.
His partner, a " BBO expert " , chided him for opening 1D .
They received a bad board because of the induced ♦ lead by partner ( opps made 12 tricks in a ♥ contract rather than the cold 11 tricks on a ♣ lead ) .
Easy to see post mortem .... duh .
I too, would have opened 1D .
Don Stenmark
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"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
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Posted 2014-July-20, 23:31
I'm opening 1 ♦ and rebidding 5 ♣.
The 5 ♣ bid shows a very distributional 2 suiter, so a ♦ lead isn't necessarily automatic if opener makes that bid.
The 5 ♣ bid shows a very distributional 2 suiter, so a ♦ lead isn't necessarily automatic if opener makes that bid.
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Posted 2014-July-21, 06:17
TWO4BRIDGE, on 2014-July-19, 07:45, said:
Well, this hand was played in a BBO tourney by a friend of mine.
His partner, a " BBO expert " , chided him for opening 1D .
They received a bad board because of the induced ♦ lead by partner ( opps made 12 tricks in a ♥ contract rather than the cold 11 tricks on a ♣ lead ) .
Easy to see post mortem .... duh .
I too, would have opened 1D .
His partner, a " BBO expert " , chided him for opening 1D .
They received a bad board because of the induced ♦ lead by partner ( opps made 12 tricks in a ♥ contract rather than the cold 11 tricks on a ♣ lead ) .
Easy to see post mortem .... duh .
I too, would have opened 1D .
Lol obvious resulting. 1♦ is clear.
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Posted 2014-July-21, 07:32
This isn't really a problem. Try instead
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Posted 2014-July-22, 09:23
whereagles, on 2014-July-21, 07:32, said:
This isn't really a problem. Try instead
Qx
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AKQJT
JTxxxx
Qx
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AKQJT
JTxxxx
1♣ then 4NT
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Posted 2014-July-22, 18:15
Well I agree with everyone that 1D is clear, But I'm not so sure 5c is. 5 minor could easily be -2 and 4 major have no play.
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Posted 2014-July-23, 01:28
bartonfinc, on 2014-July-22, 18:15, said:
Well I agree with everyone that 1D is clear, But I'm not so sure 5c is. 5 minor could easily be -2 and 4 major have no play.
There's an element of guess, of course. But usually it pays to be bold in this situation, as it's possible opps have a double fit.
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