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---P------2♦----P-------2♠
---P------2NT---P-------3NT
2♦ = Preemptive Weak two diamonds
2♠= Natural, Forcing 1 round
2NT/3NT = Natural
Opponent is not very strong.
Preemptive style is undisciplined and tends to be aggressive, Diamonds can vary from 5-6 cards, 4 cards Major is possible.
To simplify the issue, assume there's not much difference in which card you lead from individual suit.
Which suit is your choice from this hand?
J653
Q65
J4
KJ87
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Leading against preempt
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Posted 2014-April-25, 04:23
Obviously not 4th highest from longest and strongest or the hand would never have reached the forums!
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Posted 2014-April-25, 05:04
Zelandakh, on 2014-April-25, 04:23, said:
Obviously not 4th highest from longest and strongest or the hand would never have reached the forums!
Maybe, I will still lead clubs.
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Posted 2014-April-25, 05:21
Heart, on BT grounds.
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Posted 2014-April-25, 21:46
Clubs - good if partner has Q or A, even not horrid if p has ten
if this imps or mp?
if this imps or mp?
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Posted 2014-April-25, 22:04
Imp,
Nothing special here actually, just some opinion collection.
I just hold a little point that 2D opener has bigger chance for four club than four hearts, and responder has it's chance to bid heart but not likely clubs
And four cards of club but not five cards of club makes your risk gain ratio increase, thus making a heart lead superior.
My little opinion only and this want to collect some others opinion, nothing fancy
Nothing special here actually, just some opinion collection.
I just hold a little point that 2D opener has bigger chance for four club than four hearts, and responder has it's chance to bid heart but not likely clubs
And four cards of club but not five cards of club makes your risk gain ratio increase, thus making a heart lead superior.
My little opinion only and this want to collect some others opinion, nothing fancy
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Posted 2014-April-25, 22:07
IMO ♣K = 10, ♣x = 9, ♥ = 7, ♦J = 5 (If dummy has a singleton ♣, then it is more likely to be ♣Q than ♣A).
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Posted 2014-April-26, 05:11
I'm leading a club. It wouldn't surprise me to find that partner has four hearts, but I know that I have four clubs.And yes, there might be a stiff Q the dummy but I am still leading small.
If I had a diamond trick ion my hand I might give some thought to leading the Q of hearts. The idea would be that maybe partner has five hearts and they have Ax. Or some such. I am not sure I woould do it, but I think that it is worth considering. I would not lead a small heart.
On second thought, if I led hearts I would probably lead small. But I doubt I am leading a heart.
I did see that the OP suggested that we don't focus on which card to lead. But I don't think that is realistic. Which suit I would lead and which card I would lead from it are linked.
If I had a diamond trick ion my hand I might give some thought to leading the Q of hearts. The idea would be that maybe partner has five hearts and they have Ax. Or some such. I am not sure I woould do it, but I think that it is worth considering. I would not lead a small heart.
On second thought, if I led hearts I would probably lead small. But I doubt I am leading a heart.
I did see that the OP suggested that we don't focus on which card to lead. But I don't think that is realistic. Which suit I would lead and which card I would lead from it are linked.
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Posted 2014-April-26, 14:51
clubs.
What else? Assuming they know, what they are doing, diamonds
will run, i.e. 5-6 tricks, they will have spade tricks as well,
I am trying to establish our suit.
With kind regards
Marlowe
What else? Assuming they know, what they are doing, diamonds
will run, i.e. 5-6 tricks, they will have spade tricks as well,
I am trying to establish our suit.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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