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Suggestion to defense against this HUM system Säfflespader

#1 User is offline   Kungsgeten 

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Posted 2013-December-03, 10:05

Hi!

This weekend I'm playing a match against this system:

Pass = 4+ spades, 8+ hcp. May be canapé. Forcing.
1C = 4+ hearts. 0-3 spades. 8+ hcp. May be canapé. Forcing.
1D = 0-7 hcp, any distribution
1H = Unbal without 4 card major, 8+ hcp. Forcing. May be 22+ balanced.
1S = 8-12 semibalanced without 4 card major.
1N = 13-18 semibalanced without 4 card major
2m = 4+ minor and a 5+ major, 8-11 hcp
2H = 4+ hearts and 5+ spades, 8-11 hcp
2S = 11-14 hcp, 5-5 minors
2N = 19-21 semibalanced, no major

Any suggestions are welcomed, though I'd prefer it to be pretty simple if possible. I think it's a good idea to "get in" over their unlimited openings.
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Posted 2013-December-03, 10:23

View PostKungsgeten, on 2013-December-03, 10:05, said:

Hi!

This weekend I'm playing a match against this system:

Pass = 4+ spades, 8+ hcp. May be canapé. Forcing.
1C = 4+ hearts. 0-3 spades. 8+ hcp. May be canapé. Forcing.
1D = 0-7 hcp, any distribution
1H = Unbal without 4 card major, 8+ hcp. Forcing. May be 22+ balanced.
1S = 8-12 semibalanced without 4 card major.
1N = 13-18 semibalanced without 4 card major
2m = 4+ minor and a 5+ major, 8-11 hcp
2H = 4+ hearts and 5+ spades, 8-11 hcp
2S = 11-14 hcp, 5-5 minors
2N = 19-21 semibalanced, no major

Any suggestions are welcomed, though I'd prefer it to be pretty simple if possible. I think it's a good idea to "get in" over their unlimited openings.


Interesting looking system. Please send us details regarding how the match goes!

Here's a thought regarding competing over the 1H opening

X = both majors or strong

1S = Spades

S AJ72 H 52 D QT62 C 763
S AQJ73 H 74 D 843 C K5
S AJ843 H K74 D 672 C 42

1N = 2 suited with Spades and a minor

S AQ52 H 673 D QT632 C 3
S AJT62 H 4 D 52 C KJ942

2C = Clubs and Hearts

S 7632 H QJ73 D 4 C KQ42
S 5 H AQJ9 D Q42 C KQ8742

2D = Diamonds and Hearts

S Q52 H KT52 D QT62 C 62
S 42 H KJT82 D AQ932 C 3

2H = Hearts

S 73 H QJT642 D K72 C 732
S K4 H AQT9732 D 73 C 82

2S = Spades

2N = Clubs or Diamonds and a major

3C = Minors

S 4 H 863 D KJ762 C KQ73
S 2 H 63 D AT572 C AKT73

3D = Diamonds
3H = Majors
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Posted 2013-December-03, 10:43

How about playing Antinonsens, as per page 145-146 of this document: http://www.ibpa.com/...book%202012.pdf . At the end they give specific suggestions against the Säffle system.

Note that you will have seating rights against the team playing this system, and that you are allowed to look at prepared defenses after they open 1// (Also note that their 1S opening has three dots, not two as they claim on their convention card, since pass - 1 shows less than 4 spades in a potentially unbalanced hand. This gives that version of the opening three dots. The distinction is important since you are allowed to look at prepared defenses if they open with an opening bid with three dots.)
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Posted 2013-December-03, 10:45

View PostKungsgeten, on 2013-December-03, 10:05, said:

Hi!

This weekend I'm playing a match against this system:

Pass = 4+ spades, 8+ hcp. May be canapé. Forcing.
1C = 4+ hearts. 0-3 spades. 8+ hcp. May be canapé. Forcing.
1D = 0-7 hcp, any distribution
1H = Unbal without 4 card major, 8+ hcp. Forcing. May be 22+ balanced.
1S = 8-12 semibalanced without 4 card major.
1N = 13-18 semibalanced without 4 card major
2m = 4+ minor and a 5+ major, 8-11 hcp
2H = 4+ hearts and 5+ spades, 8-11 hcp
2S = 11-14 hcp, 5-5 minors
2N = 19-21 semibalanced, no major

Any suggestions are welcomed, though I'd prefer it to be pretty simple if possible. I think it's a good idea to "get in" over their unlimited openings.


Do you know how 3rd seat bids over the P/1 ? I'd suggest you want to bid 1/N a lot over them, but exactly what it should mean is not clear and may depend on their methods. A word of warning, having played a wide range NT myself, intervening over it particularly with 2m may actually give them more options not less.
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Posted 2013-December-03, 12:49

View PostCyberyeti, on 2013-December-03, 10:45, said:

Do you know how 3rd seat bids over the P/1 ? I'd suggest you want to bid 1/N a lot over them, but exactly what it should mean is not clear and may depend on their methods. A word of warning, having played a wide range NT myself, intervening over it particularly with 2m may actually give them more options not less.


I think this is what they play: http://www.bridgefed...lillasaffle.PDF
Perhaps something is changed since that document was written though.
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Posted 2013-December-06, 14:03

Play semi penalty doubles. You want to double 1D close at least 40-45% of the time. You will quickly understand why pass is the best call in the bidding box.

(1D)--X

11-16 with at least 3D.

Its going to be a luck fest but on the long run of this def was enough to convince me that most FP systems are mostly swindle systems and that against serious def most of them are unplayable.
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Posted 2013-December-10, 08:03

I'm sad to inform you that we did not meet the team playing this system in the tournament. I prepared a defense which I think would have worked okay, but never got to try it. Perhaps another time!
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