[Free]

Here's one from last night in my local club. I don't know the EW hands since I claimed quite fast.

Scoring: MP

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Bidding at our table was as follows (partner in North starts):

1♣ - pass - 1♠ - pass
1NT - 2♣ - pass* - 3♣
3♦ - 4♣ - 6♣ - pass
7♠ - all pass

1♣ = 15+HCP any (or GF hands)
1♠ = GF, 4+♥, can have longer m
1NT = relay
pass* = 4+♦

I know opps should've bid ♣s immediatly, but they weren't the best opps you can find We were the only pair who found grand slam...

[mr1303]

Bit of a punt of 7S wasn't it? How do you know partner has any spades at all? By my reckoning you've agreed diamonds at this point. Anyway, your claim that you "found" 7S isn't accurate, since you didn't find it, you jumped into it by accident might be a more appropriate term. And got lucky

Fair play to you for punting it though

[inquiry]

I agree that 7♠ was guess... and not a good one at that... remove a spade from your partners hand giving him stiff ace, down you go for surely spades are not 3-3 with vulnerable opponnents bidding like crazy (if partner has one spade, they have six). while 7♦ is excellent.

I would have sympathy if you bid 7♦ and lost a trick to a major ace, but none if you bid 7♠ and lost a trick to the ♠JACK,

Your bid required to catch your partner with
spade Ax or better
Heart A
Diamond Q (well I agree he has this card for the bidding)
Club void or ace (well this he will have)

[Free]

I must say, I agree that 7♦ is a much better slam. However, I don't think bidding any grand slam after my 6♣ bid is a bit of a guess. 7♠ is a risk, 7♦ is obligated imo.

mr1303 said:

you didn't find it, you jumped into it by accident might be a more appropriate term. And got lucky

Opps bid V vs NV against a GF auction up until 4♣. If you're north and you get that 6♣ bid ("bid any slam") and you know partner doesn't have a first or second round control ♦, then he MUST have all other first round controls.

[mr1303]

Fair point, but why is 6C "pick any slam"? Why shouldn't it be a grand slam try on diamonds (based on a club void)?

[Free]

mr1303, on Feb 15 2005, 07:58 PM, said:

Fair point, but why is 6C "pick any slam"? Why shouldn't it be a grand slam try on diamonds (based on a club void)?

That would be 5NT

[HeartA]

Though 7♠ was guess, but a reasonable guess. Note that North has 7 (not 6) ♠, even if South's ♠ were stiff Ace (not likely given South was void in ♣), it only required ♠ 3-2, not 3-3.

[sceptic]

why is it when I bid like that I go down for -2200.

This game is harder than I thought

[the hog]

I must admit that I am strongly against a 1C opening on hands of this ilk; as you leave yourself far too open to pre emption. How would you fare after 1C (5C)? Far better to open a natural 1S and bid strongly thereafter.

As to the later auction, why could partner not have stiff A of S, or worse no Ace of S but stiff C Ace?

[toothbrush]

I was north in that game and i agree that 7♠ was a lucky guess.

I agree that the opening was difficult, I had these possibilities:
1♣ = 15+hcp, 9+sp, any distribution ==> after this opening opps should bid as quickly as possible 4/5/6♣ and after that i'll have to gamble spades...
1♠ = 10-15hcp, 5+♠ ==> I think I'm too strong for that because i have almost 9 tricks in my hand, but if i bid strong after that my partner knows what sort of hand i have and that's a great advantage imo
4♦ = namyats, good preempt ♠, no voids, 1 or 2 KC ==> I'm much too strong for that and we'll never find out about ♦, but in this case, I think it would have worked.

Anyway, I took a look at the opponents and decided to open 1♣

After one round opponents hadn't bid clubs yet, so I presumed partner had them and I bid a relay to find out more of his distribution. Situation is GF.
After 3♣ I had another difficult decision to make:
Pass ==> too strong for that i think, single ♥ and ♦ support make it attractive to play a high ♦-contract
3♦ ==> shows the ♦-support and shows interest in slam, i guess; else i bid 4 or 5 ♦
3♠ ==> shows good ♠, but doesn't say anything about ♦ but after all this is the best I think
other bids like 4♣, 4♦, 4♠, 5♣, 5♦, etc. are also possible but not as good as the above because they take too much space


But what did i have to do after 6♣ ???
To bid like this parner belongs to have a void ♣ and at least 6 ♦ with Q and J. With good clubs he would double because of the vulnerability, so the void was a fact. So he has something like 3-4-6-0 or 4-4-5-0 or 2-4-7-0 or 2-5-6-0. Then why didn't he bid 5♣? That also shows first control ♣ and a good hand. Two voids (0-6-7-0 or something like that) seems unlikely (then ce can bid some ♥ isn't it)so he must also have Ace of ♠. And he has bid ♥ so he should have that ace too!
So this is what partner should have:
♠ Ax
♥ Axxx
♦ QJxxxxx
♣ -
I think it's better to bid 6♠ after 6♣, then partner can choose to bid grand slam in ♦ or ♠ with ace of ♠. Without he can pass safely.

[whereagles]

7S is ok if North knows South has the two relevant aces (obivously 6C is a void). But how did North guess no ace was out?