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#1 User is offline   SimonFa 

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Posted 2013-May-28, 02:40

MP, all white, 2/1.

♠7652
♥953
♦K87
♣Q74

Edit: bidding goes 1C (P) ?

On the plus side you do have 4 Spades but on the negative side they're pretty anemic and it is a 4333 hand.

I know its a bidders game but is this pushing it too far?

Thanks in advance,

Simon
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Posted 2013-May-28, 03:10

 SimonFa, on 2013-May-28, 02:40, said:

MP, all white, 2/1.

♠7652
♥953
♦K87
♣Q74

On the plus side you do have 4 Spades but on the negative side they're pretty anemic and it is a 4333 hand.

I know its a bidders game but is this pushing it too far?

Thanks in advance,

Simon


Since u didnt tell which suit pd opened with...


I bid 1 ♠ over a minor

I show my support if pd opens 1♥

I show my support over 1♠

I pass over 1NT


I will not go over 2 level openings...
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Posted 2013-May-28, 03:33

In a natural system, I would raise a major but pass a minor.
But with Qxxx.Kxx.xxx.xxx I would always respond.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 06:07

I pass the 1 club opener.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 06:54

Doesn't it depend what system you are playing?

If you are playing Acol with a weak no trump it would be silly to pass 1♣, for instance, because partner will often have a strong no trump.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 07:03

I don't think this hand is worth 5 points. I would pass any one level opening, except maybe 1♠.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 07:07

I will stick my neck out with 1♠ on account of the conditions. Please don't jump pd.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 07:11

Pass
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Posted 2013-May-28, 07:46

Pass.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 12:23

Will I want to leave the room rather than put down dummy if partner bids 2NT next? In this case yes. Pass. Will I want to leave the room rather than put down dummy if partner bids 1NT next? This is the death hand for weak NT-X, so yeah.

I'm less likely to pass playing K/S, as I don't particularly mind 1NT next, and that's much more likely than 2NT.

Yes, 1♣ will play worse than spades, but I'll have to play 2♠, and that's if we have spades.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 12:53

pass - no reason to get partner excited.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 13:30

I pass 1♣ with this REALLY bad 5 count.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 13:33

Pass.
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Posted 2013-May-29, 02:53

I may be too conservative but my general rule is that if I wouldn't welcome a 2nt rebid I don't respond. This one actually doesn't welcome any rebid other than 2♣ or 2♠ and if p is minimum with a fit, oops are probably going to outbid us anyway. And I don't want a spade lead.

1♠ has merits of course. It makes it more difficult for oops to bid 4♥. But I don't think it's worth it. We will get overboard too often.
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Posted 2013-May-29, 16:35

I will bid 1♠, but in my world partner will not bid 2N with a balanced 18-19.
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Posted 2013-May-29, 19:04

Totally obvious pass. Bidding with this trash is a lol.
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Posted 2013-May-29, 19:32

It's heartening to see so much incisive matchpoint analaysis in this thread.
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Posted 2013-May-29, 19:42

 PhilKing, on 2013-May-29, 19:32, said:

It's heartening to see so much incisive matchpoint analaysis in this thread.

gwnn noticed the conditions, he may be the only one!
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Posted 2013-May-29, 20:39

So its matchpoints no one vul. It is still a pass.
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Posted 2013-May-30, 06:03

 655321, on 2013-May-29, 19:42, said:

gwnn noticed the conditions, he may be the only one!


 ArtK78, on 2013-May-29, 20:39, said:

So its matchpoints no one vul. It is still a pass.

Maybe we noticed and just didn't care ;)
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