1m 2m invitatonal+
#1
Posted 2013-February-10, 01:11
“Let me put it in words you might understand,” he said. “Mr. Trump, f–k off!” Anders Vistisen
"Bridge is a terrible game". blackshoe
#2
Posted 2013-February-10, 02:22
all balanced minimums bid 2nt, nat, nf.
otherwise, bid stoppers up the line and you are in a force through 3m
#3
Posted 2013-February-10, 04:47
I would however recommend 1♣-2♣-2♦ as artificial to leave more space. We actually play 1♦-2♦-2N as the GF ask (in a weak NT context so you either have extra shape or points) but some people use 2♥.
#4
Posted 2013-February-10, 04:54
#5
Posted 2013-February-10, 11:39
It works best in conjunction with 1m-2NT natural and forcing, since it's a structure designed to handle both inv-vs-GF and stoppers-vs-not.
It works very well for only getting you to 3NT when everything is stopped. But it gets a little frustrating when the field blasts 3NT blindly and makes it on a wrong lead or a 4-4 break in the wide-open suit and your double-dummy-perfect 3C+1 scores about 20%. I am reluctantly considering giving it up if I find a structure I like better.
There are a wide variety of conventional alternatives. Most of them feature just one way for each partner to show a minimum. Some reserve one of opener's rebids for 4441 and another to promise 5m.
#6
Posted 2013-February-10, 12:23
However, I think just playing natural is already an improvement over the stopper-showing-force of standard:
- You are forced to 3m, so 2NT by either partner is natural.
- 2-level suit bids by opener are natural, deny a balanced hand.
- Jumps to a new suit are splinters.
- A jump to 3NT shows the values of 18-19 balanced, with 5-6 trumps. (Alternatively, 3-4 trumps. The other 18-19 balanced hands go via 2NT.)
- If you do have to look for stoppers, you can still do so at the 3-level.
- But if you are balanced opposite balanced with the values for game, just bid 3NT already.
#7
Posted 2013-February-10, 12:24
#8
Posted 2013-February-11, 13:59
In my weak NT partnership, the only non-GF call is 3m, but that's because the only hand that isn't 15-opposite-support after limit+ is a overstrength weak 2.
There are advantages to playing 1m-2m GF, and disadvantages (criss-cross is your limit raise, maybe, or don't have a limit raise, or 3m is mixed raise and you have no bad-hand preempt, or...) compared to limit+.
#9
Posted 2013-February-11, 22:29
The occasional pick up partner wants to play 1m 2m inv+ so I thought it would be useful to understand the options.
“Let me put it in words you might understand,” he said. “Mr. Trump, f–k off!” Anders Vistisen
"Bridge is a terrible game". blackshoe
#10
Posted 2013-February-12, 04:23
#11
Posted 2013-February-12, 08:37
jillybean, on 2013-February-11, 22:29, said:
The occasional pick up partner wants to play 1m 2m inv+ so I thought it would be useful to understand the options.
Pickup partners will think any new suit is stopper-showing. I wouldn't want to guess whether they think 2NT is forcing, so I would never bid that with the values for game.