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#1 User is offline   lycier 

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Posted 2012-December-19, 23:08





After forcing 1nt,opener rebid 2nt shows 18-19hcp with balanced hand,how do responder describe this hand now?
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Posted 2012-December-19, 23:35

can I play mexican 2d :)


given OP as a nonexpert i would guess 3nt now.
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Posted 2012-December-20, 02:24

Maybe you should define 3 ♠ for such a hand. But I do not have this agreement and I have no other bid (4NT?) to reach the right minor, so I try 3 NT too.
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Posted 2012-December-20, 02:43

View PostCodo, on 2012-December-20, 02:24, said:

Maybe you should define 3 ♠ for such a hand. But I do not have this agreement and I have no other bid (4NT?) to reach the right minor, so I try 3 NT too.


I agree to bid 3♠,it is impossible 3♠,its goal is seriously to alert your partner: if 3nt as final contract,there maybe some problem in ♠ suit;if without some wasteful high card point in ♠,opener can choose 5♣ or 5♦ as a final contract.
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Posted 2012-December-20, 05:17

Wouldn't 3♦ be forcing? And later 4♣? There's gotta be a fit somewhere, the only issues I see is whether you're playing imp's (you don't care much for 5 of a minor or 3NT) or mp's (you want to play 3NT for the overtrick). 3♠ sounds nice if partner is in the same wavelength.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2012-December-20, 06:05

Can you not bid 3H as xfer to S then 4H to show short major and both minors?
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Posted 2012-December-20, 06:08

View PostCodo, on 2012-December-20, 02:24, said:

Maybe you should define 3 ♠ for such a hand. But I do not have this agreement and I have no other bid (4NT?) to reach the right minor, so I try 3 NT too.

I have that agreement (actually 3♥) so I'm feeling really smart right now! It's because of using transfers after 2NT rebids, on this auction you don't need a transfer to spades so you can replace it as showing the minors instead. Anyway I would just bid 3NT if I couldn't show the minors.
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Posted 2012-December-20, 06:25

At matchpoints, I think 3 NT is right. If pard can't stop ♠s, c'est la vie.

At IMPS, I'm going to bid 3 ♦ which should be forcing. If pard bids 3 NT, we're good. If pard bids 3 ♠, I'll bid 3 NT. But if pard bids 3 ♥ asking about a ♠ stopper, I'll bid 4 ♣ and look for the minor suit game.
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Posted 2012-December-20, 20:24

View Postmcphee, on 2012-December-20, 06:05, said:

Can you not bid 3H as xfer to S then 4H to show short major and both minors?


Why give up 3 NT as a final contract? Impossible 3S shows minors,it that not a good idea?
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Posted 2012-December-20, 21:03

View Postlycier, on 2012-December-20, 20:24, said:

Why give up 3 NT as a final contract?


You have a fair bit in reserve, and one of the minors is bound to hit a fit and produce a few tricks; so I wouldn't worry much about ending up in 4NT.
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