Double Dummy Play Problem
#1
Posted 2012-October-21, 19:00
-- Bertrand Russell
#2
Posted 2012-October-21, 19:13
that doesn't work as east isn't squeezed.
What happens if you win play 4 rounds of clubs, hook a D, cash A♠ and exit a low heart? East has to win the K, give you an entry to the Spade K , or a free finesse in D or an entry to dummy via a heart.
#3
Posted 2012-October-21, 19:23
#4
Posted 2012-October-21, 19:34
bigbenvic, on 2012-October-21, 19:13, said:
that doesn't work as east isn't squeezed.
What happens if you win play 4 rounds of clubs, hook a D, cash A♠ and exit a low heart? East has to win the K, give you an entry to the Spade K , or a free finesse in D or an entry to dummy via a heart.
He exits with a diamond, and you cannot get to the king of spades.
#5
Posted 2012-October-21, 19:38
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#6
Posted 2012-October-21, 19:58
I was on the right track but as usual just not quite there.
#7
Posted 2012-October-21, 20:48
My initial thinking was run the clubs, after cashing the spade A, and then hook a diamond and lead a small heart from AJxx, but E can keep a diamond exit, giving us the 5th diamond but we don't get the spade K.
So we need to keep the club entry to our hand.
Win the club A or K, spade A and low heart now. If he leads a spade, we win to hook the diamond and then still have the club communication....and it does him no good to give us the free hook by leading a diamond this time.
And if he leads a heart, we have the 10 as the extra entry, so there is no way out.
Took 4 minutes:)
But it is easier when presented as a known double dummy problem without the bias of actually having played the hand, which has the tendency of locking us in, temporarily, to lines we'd take at the table. Knowing it is double dummy means rejecting any 'obvious' line we'd take:)
Sorry, I see i was beaten to the answer:)
This post has been edited by mikeh: 2012-October-21, 20:49
#8
Posted 2012-October-21, 21:25
lamford, on 2012-October-21, 19:23, said:
This is true, in fact it is probably better as a single dummy problem since it is a good test of technique. How about this:
1. ♠A
2-3. ♣AK (removing RHO's hypothetical doubleton)
4. ♥ to RHO
5. ♠K
6. ♦J
7. ♥A
8-9. ♣QT, squeezing LHO between ♠QJxx and ♦Qxxxx
#9
Posted 2012-October-22, 10:40
twoshy, on 2012-October-21, 21:25, said:
1. ♠A
2-3. ♣AK (removing RHO's hypothetical doubleton)
4. ♥ to RHO
5. ♠K
6. ♦J
7. ♥A
8-9. ♣QT, squeezing LHO between ♠QJxx and ♦Qxxxx
That is a nice extra chance. The only trap to avoid is not to lead the jack of hearts, as East ducks!
#10
Posted 2012-October-22, 10:45
#11
Posted 2012-October-22, 10:59
Traps include leading the ♥J (East ducks) or cashing the 4th club too early, which squeezes dummy out of a low heart, but you can survive by discarding the ♥J.
2-3 minutes I guess.
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#12
Posted 2012-October-22, 12:37
But you can just cash one club, ace of spades, then play a low heart? Now if East plays a diamond you still have your club entry and easily have 12 tricks. And anything else would give you an extra entry to dummy anyway so I suppose that is it, right?
#13
Posted 2012-October-22, 12:43
Phil, on 2012-October-22, 10:59, said:
Traps include leading the ♥J (East ducks) or cashing the 4th club too early, which squeezes dummy out of a low heart, but you can survive by discarding the ♥J.
2-3 minutes I guess.
and after your first thought, rho returns a diamond, and down you go. You lack any entry to the spade K or the long club, and you need both of them
#14
Posted 2012-October-22, 13:51
lamford, on 2012-October-22, 10:40, said:
This is a pseudo trap, you still actually make.
4 diamonds 2 hearts 4 clubs 2 spades.
Just give up the queen of diamonds without finessing it.
#15
Posted 2012-October-22, 14:20
dwar0123, on 2012-October-22, 13:51, said:
This is a pseudo trap, you still actually make.
4 diamonds 2 hearts 4 clubs 2 spades.
Just give up the queen of diamonds without finessing it.
That fails when West has ♦Q9xxx and ♠QJxx (in the single dummy variation), which is what I was commenting on.
#16
Posted 2012-October-22, 14:29
mikeh, on 2012-October-22, 12:43, said:
yeah, true.
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