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Posted 2012-August-11, 11:30
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"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
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"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
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Posted 2012-August-11, 12:09
I transfer, and it matters a lot.
"What's the big rebid problem? After 1♦ - 1♠, I can rebid 1NT, 2♠, or 2♦."
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Posted 2012-August-11, 12:24
Yep, transfer.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2012-August-11, 13:48
Transfer. With a suit like KQTxx, I can see how NT might take the same number, but it seems very anti-field.
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Posted 2012-August-11, 16:01
I transfer because the field is transferring, and because of a Larry Cohen study of a million deals --> when a 1NT overcall is the final contract, it averages 45% at MPs. I bet this is probably because most people overcall 1NT on 1.5 stoppers, maybe not even having that half a stopper. Regardless, passing 1NT is a losing proposition.
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"One advantage of bad bidding is that you get practice at playing atrocious contracts."
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Posted 2012-August-11, 16:18
I transfer because I expect hearts to take more tricks than notrump most of the time. Not because of the field, not because of a study that may not reflect the current deal at all. There are so many ways this could happen.
Partner doesn't have the ace of hearts, and they can hold it up to cut off my dummy.
Partner has Ax of hearts and they don't run.
Partner has just one spade stopper, so the opponents will set up lots of tricks when they get in later (say he needs a trick from KQx of a minor or something).
Partner has a doubleton in a minor and we get a ruff.
Partner has no stopper in one of the minors so we need to play in a suit.
Opener is about to rebid 2♠ and partner can compete to 3♥, or if he doesn't he will at least lead a heart now if nothing else is obvious.
Passing has one way to win, which is notrump takes the same (or more?) tricks than hearts. I'll pay off.
Partner doesn't have the ace of hearts, and they can hold it up to cut off my dummy.
Partner has Ax of hearts and they don't run.
Partner has just one spade stopper, so the opponents will set up lots of tricks when they get in later (say he needs a trick from KQx of a minor or something).
Partner has a doubleton in a minor and we get a ruff.
Partner has no stopper in one of the minors so we need to play in a suit.
Opener is about to rebid 2♠ and partner can compete to 3♥, or if he doesn't he will at least lead a heart now if nothing else is obvious.
Passing has one way to win, which is notrump takes the same (or more?) tricks than hearts. I'll pay off.
"What's the big rebid problem? After 1♦ - 1♠, I can rebid 1NT, 2♠, or 2♦."
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Posted 2012-August-11, 16:29
lalldonn, on 2012-August-11, 16:18, said:
I transfer because I expect hearts to take more tricks than notrump most of the time. Not because of the field, not because of a study that may not reflect the current deal at all. There are so many ways this could happen.
Thanks very much. I played in 1nt and did a double take when dummy came down.
My (pickup) partner was more interested in why I overcalled nt with only 1 ♠ stopper than
why I thought a transfer was a good idea. (A982,AJ9,QJ2,A72)
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
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Posted 2012-August-11, 18:38
lalldonn, on 2012-August-11, 16:18, said:
I transfer because I expect hearts to take more tricks than notrump most of the time. Not because of the field, not because of a study that may not reflect the current deal at all. There are so many ways this could happen.
Partner doesn't have the ace of hearts, and they can hold it up to cut off my dummy.
Partner has Ax of hearts and they don't run.
Partner has just one spade stopper, so the opponents will set up lots of tricks when they get in later (say he needs a trick from KQx of a minor or something).
Partner has a doubleton in a minor and we get a ruff.
Partner has no stopper in one of the minors so we need to play in a suit.
Opener is about to rebid 2♠ and partner can compete to 3♥, or if he doesn't he will at least lead a heart now if nothing else is obvious.
Passing has one way to win, which is notrump takes the same (or more?) tricks than hearts. I'll pay off.
Partner doesn't have the ace of hearts, and they can hold it up to cut off my dummy.
Partner has Ax of hearts and they don't run.
Partner has just one spade stopper, so the opponents will set up lots of tricks when they get in later (say he needs a trick from KQx of a minor or something).
Partner has a doubleton in a minor and we get a ruff.
Partner has no stopper in one of the minors so we need to play in a suit.
Opener is about to rebid 2♠ and partner can compete to 3♥, or if he doesn't he will at least lead a heart now if nothing else is obvious.
Passing has one way to win, which is notrump takes the same (or more?) tricks than hearts. I'll pay off.
this makes a very strong case for xfer
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