[vodkagirl]

Hi guys,

In a uncontested auction, the bidding went 1♠-1♥-2♥-4N-5♠-Pass.

Basically, I realized my 4N had been optimistic and 6♥ is not making as we have not enough keycards.

I cannot even get to 5♥.

I decide to pass figuring this limits the damage, ie, 5♠ loses fewer tricks than 6♥.

If opponents had doubled then I am retreating to 5N which partner would realize was not a King Ask.

Partner and I had no agreement in this situation.

What do you suggest as a way of parachuting out of RKB when you know a small slam is not making?

[wyman]

I'd suggest thinking before bidding 4N.

[Stephen Tu]

In most cases there will be no way to get out. Just bid the slam, hope one of the missing keycards is the king of trumps and that it is onside. Or that the opponents can't figure out how to cash their two aces in time.

Just take your lesson that you weren't supposed to bid RKB in the first place.

[BunnyGo]

I do not understand the auction as written, as one partner has made an insufficient bid. But I do agree with wyman. If 5S will be too high, don't bid 4N.

[vodkagirl]

Auction not rendered correctly it went: 1♠-2♥-3♥-4N-5♠-P.

[BunnyGo]

In that case I'd bid 4 of a minor (or 3NT if some sort of slam try) instead of 4N when I cannot happily bid slam opposite a 5S response.

[ArtK78]

There is no way out after bidding RKCB. You MUST be able to withstand any normal response to 4NT before bidding it.

[vodkagirl]

wyman, on 2012-July-30, 11:50, said:

I'd suggest thinking before bidding 4N.

You are a known troll. Please do not post in any of my threads again. Many thanks.

Also sent this message to you via your name so you do not miss it.

[wyman]

vodkagirl, on 2012-July-30, 12:29, said:

You are a known troll. Please do not post in any of my threads again. Many thanks.

Besides the fact that they aren't "your" threads, I'll just say "no" to your suggestion to avoid your threads, and I'll suggest that you learn to take criticism before posting on these forums. Else you will have a frustrating (and short) tenure here!

I'm intrigued about the troll part, though -- especially since I'm known as a troll by someone with only 6 posts here!

[wyman]

Oh, and maybe we can move this thread to the n00b forum.

[aguahombre]

wyman, on 2012-July-30, 11:50, said:

I'd suggest thinking before bidding 4N.

vodkagirl, on 2012-July-30, 12:29, said:

You are a known troll. Please do not post in any of my threads again. Many thanks.

Also sent this message to you via your name so you do not miss it.

Did the others make the same point more delicately? Or should we all refrain?

[vodkagirl]

aguahombre, on 2012-July-30, 12:34, said:

Did the others make the same point more delicately? Or should we all refrain?

I have no problem with criticism.

What Wyman wrote was akin to telling a debtor was asks for advice not to have gone into debt in the first place.

[vodkagirl]

wyman, on 2012-July-30, 12:34, said:

Oh, and maybe we can move this thread to the n00b forum.

You are a known troll. Please do not post in any thread I create.

I will contact BBO if you post in this thead again.

You are cyberstalking me.

[wyman]

vodkagirl, on 2012-July-30, 12:36, said:

I have no problem with criticism.

What Wyman wrote was akin to telling a debtor was asks for advice not to have gone into debt in the first place.

Yes, since you're not yet in "debt" in future auctions, I'm telling you that next time, you shouldn't get into debt in the first place. That's the only advice that makes sense here. Doing otherwise is just bad bridge.

[wyman]

vodkagirl, on 2012-July-30, 12:38, said:

You are a known troll. Please do not post in any thread I create.

I will contact BBO if you post in this thead again.

You are cyberstalking me.

Looking forward to the results of this!

[ArtK78]

Vodkagirl:

You posted looking for an answer. You got it. From several sources.

You have no reason to criticize the answers or the posters who answered.

Wyman is due an apology.

[sfi]

vodkagirl, on 2012-July-30, 12:36, said:

What Wyman wrote was akin to telling a debtor was asks for advice not to have gone into debt in the first place.

This is only a valid analogy if you're asking in the middle of the hand. Wyman's advice is perfectly sound, if terse - if you can't handle the expected answers to your query (either 4NT or the original post), then maybe you should not be asking that particular question in the first place.

[vodkagirl]

I have sent the following report to BBO:

Dear Sirs/Madam,

Wyman gave me a rude answer. I asked him to kindly stop posting in my thread. He said he would post as he wished and threatened I would have a short tenure on this forum. He then derided me by saying my post should be moved to the no0b forum. I said he was cyberstalking and I would contact you and he mocked this.

Please resolve this situation.

Yours,

vodkagirl

[kfay]

New record time for progression from normal guy --> troll --> cyberstalker?

[wyman]

Can I at least get a cyberstalker undertitle?