[JLOGIC]

It is just normal to hook dude whatever. This is like when someone drops the queen instead of hooks with an 8 card fit, gj to them, maybe they had some epic read, but youre just gonna hook.

This thread has been entertaining though.

[JLOGIC]

Here is an analagous situation:

JT9xx

AQ8xx

Do you hook or play for the drop?

That is effectively what we are debating here. Even if we could rule out LHO having a void because he has a side doubleton and would always bid with 7-4 or 8-3, hooking would still be pecentage because we win on Kx on our right (2 combos), and lose only to stiff K on our left (1 combo). Even if we then said RHO was not completely random with their spots, so its not truly 2:1, ok whatever maybe it's 1.5:1. We would still hook. We are just always hooking. There is not that much to be said about this suit combination. The only way you don't hook is if you have some strong outerworld read.

[cherdano]

JLOGIC, on 2012-June-27, 18:16, said:

Here is an analagous situation:

JT9xx

AQ8xx

Do you hook or play for the drop?

That is effectively what we are debating here. Even if we could rule out LHO having a void because he has a side doubleton and would always bid with 7-4 or 8-3, hooking would still be pecentage because we win on Kx on our right (2 combos), and lose only to stiff K on our left (1 combo). Even if we then said RHO was not completely random with their spots, so its not truly 2:1, ok whatever maybe it's 1.5:1. We would still hook. We are just always hooking. There is not that much to be said about this suit combination. The only way you don't hook is if you have some strong outerworld read.

This is not completely analogous. In our situation, if we could rule out that LHO has a singleton, we would be comparing Qx to xx with LHO. These are exactly equally likely.

Anyway, the odds are roughly 60-40 for the finesse.