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Posted 2012-January-02, 18:06

1m:1M
1N:4♣ 1430 Gerber
4♦:4♥

If you use next suit to ask for Kings, does 4N show the ♥K ?
If 4N shows the ♥ King, does 5♠ asks partner to bid 6 with the ♠K?
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Posted 2012-January-02, 18:20

If 4NT shows the ♥K, then it also denies the ♠K.
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Posted 2012-January-02, 18:21

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Posted 2012-January-02, 23:43

Sorry..
1m:1M
1N:4♣ 1430 Gerber
4♦:4♥

If you use next suit to ask for Kings, does 4N show K♥?
If response to King ask is 4♠, does 4N ask partner to bid 6 with K♥?
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Posted 2012-January-03, 04:16

I would think 4N would be exploring at least 6 over a 4♥ K ask and 4♠ showing the ♠K. But you don't need to bid 6♥, you could show a different K or Q along the way.
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Posted 2012-January-03, 08:45

After
1m:1M
1N:4♣ (1430 Gerber)
4♦:4♥

if 4♥ asks for specifc kings then I would use 4NT to show the ♥K and deny the ♠K. It is arguably better to use denial responses here since we are more likely to want to sign off in a suit where the king is not held.

After
1m:1M
1N:4♣ (1430 Gerber)
4♦:4♥ (specific K ask)
4♠

4NT should asks for additional specific kings, not specifically the ♥K. It is enough to respond 5♥ with the ♥K and no minor suit king. I am assuming in this that the 4♣ bid does not agree any particular suit as trumps.
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Posted 2012-January-03, 08:57

I've never used or come across a "number of aces" ask followed by specific king ask in Gerber. Is this normal these days? I have always seen "number of aces" followed by "number of kings". Of course you can agree anything here with a specific partner, but what would be accepted as normal?
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