[Fluffy]

♠QJxx
♥K10x
♦AJ9x
♣xx

Mps, all vul. South deals.

pass-(1♥)-X-(3♥)
??


If you double...

Spoiler

Partner bids 3♠

[Mbodell]

I'd bid 3♠ directly and if I doubled and partner did what's in the spoiler I'd pass on my next chance.

[BunnyGo]

I'd bid 3♠.

[gnasher]

I think it's a matter of partnership agreement rather than judgement. Either of these styles is playable:
(1) With four spades advancer bids 3♠; double normally denies four spades
(2) 3♠ shows either five or a hand that can only play spades; double includes hands with four spades (as well as hands with no major); facing a double, the doubler bids spades if he has them.

If we knew that LHO was going to pass over a double, (2) would work well. However, it works badly if opener reraises. Hence I prefer (1), which would make this hand a 3♠ bid.

[mich-b]

gnasher, on 2011-November-30, 04:53, said:

I think it's a matter of partnership agreement rather than judgement. Either of these styles is playable:
(1) With four spades advancer bids 3♠; double normally denies four spades
(2) 3♠ shows either five or a hand that can only play spades; double includes hands with four spades (as well as hands with no major); facing a double, the doubler bids spades if he has them.

If we knew that LHO was going to pass over a double, (2) would work well. However, it works badly if opener reraises. Hence I prefer (1), which would make this hand a 3♠ bid.

I think this may be a 3♠ bid even playing (2) , since my alternative minor is only a 4 card suit , and my ♠ suit (together with my ♥ holding) is good enough to handle the rare occasion when 3♠ is a 4-3 fit.

[bigbenvic]

I like to use X here to show 4s and a good hand for play or defense and 3s as a hand with good offence but not good defence.

with AJ♦ and KTx♥ plus a 4342 shape I double, You never know partner might convert to penalties and Plus 200 is a great score.

If partner bids 3♠ I pass.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

A DBL now is Responsive... showing the minors .

You have Spades... bid them, when partner most likely has them also.

[bigbenvic]

TWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-November-30, 08:52, said:

A DBL now is Responsive... showing the minors .

You have Spades... bid them, when partner most likely has them also.

You're a passed hand opposite a t/o X wanting to compete in 4m vunerable? Isn't more important to identify the real strength hand with the I'm just competing hand?

How to you whack a frisky opponent who bids 3♥ light, even for a preemptive raise?

[MrAce]

Double, i use #2 style of Andy's list.

But just because OP said if we double pd bids 3♠, doesnt neccesarilly what pd would bid if we agreed to play this style.

I like this style especially when preempters are extremely agressive and/or unpredictable preempt style (such as often jump to 3 with only 3 card supp and also all 4 card supp). I like the #1 of Andy's list if they preempt predictable and conservative.

[Fluffy]

I doubled and perhaps this had some preemptive effect on LHO who was 0535, and decided to pass for the rest of the auction. Bad players don´t understand take out doubles.

3♠ with 5-0 split was not a success, but 4♥ was cold anyway. I thikn 3♠ -100 was 12/14 MPs, the top was 3♠ making. -500 in 4♠ would had been below average.

[whereagles]

3S. Not happy of doing this with 4 cards only, but that's the only non-messy bid I can come up with (unless I have the agreement this shows any 2 4-card suits).