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After the opps have bid quantitatively to 3N, double says lead a heart. Doubler has solid hearts or more likely, one loser and an outside ace. The corollary to this is that if partner is looking for a lead to your hand, she can rule out a heart as you would have doubled.
Love it, hate it, never heard of it?
I assume if you play it, it must be alerted?
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Posted 2011-October-09, 19:43
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Posted 2011-October-10, 01:18
I prefer the flexible (and popular) "partner, please find my suit" meaning for a double of a (constructively bid) 3NT.
Sometimes you will be really anxious for partner to lead a ♠, or (rarely) a minor. Partner will use his judgement , and almost always will be able to "guess" your suit correctly.
I think , that if you limit your suit to being ♥s , you will win on the very rare cases where pd is unable to guess what your suit is , but will lose when you actually have a different strong suit , and want it led.
And yes , of course you have to alert it.
Sometimes you will be really anxious for partner to lead a ♠, or (rarely) a minor. Partner will use his judgement , and almost always will be able to "guess" your suit correctly.
I think , that if you limit your suit to being ♥s , you will win on the very rare cases where pd is unable to guess what your suit is , but will lose when you actually have a different strong suit , and want it led.
And yes , of course you have to alert it.
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Posted 2011-October-10, 01:34
I play it and like it. After three doubles where I should have guessed the suit and I held something like Jxxx in it, we decided that it's better that it's strictly one suit the double asks for. I don't know if there is something superior to it being hearts, I thought it usually requests spade lead and we wanted to be different 
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Posted 2011-October-10, 08:37
I usually play 'lead your shortest major'.
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Posted 2011-October-10, 11:12
Well, so now I've seen "lead a spade", "lead a heart", and "lead a club" for 3NTx, as well as the "standard" "find my suit", "weaker major", or "dummy's first-bid" Lightner-ish double.
Somebody has to play, just for consistency, "lead a diamond".
Somebody has to play, just for consistency, "lead a diamond".
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Posted 2011-October-10, 11:29
mycroft, on 2011-October-10, 11:12, said:
Well, so now I've seen "lead a spade", "lead a heart", and "lead a club" for 3NTx, as well as the "standard" "find my suit", "weaker major", or "dummy's first-bid" Lightner-ish double.
Somebody has to play, just for consistency, "lead a diamond".
Somebody has to play, just for consistency, "lead a diamond".
Well I play lead a diamond...if it is right
This is really only a 4th seat problem in the (1NT) P (3NT) auction(otherwise you will likely be able to bid your suit). Normally I expect partner to lead a major here so I suspect the X is best for when 1 of the minors is right probably the shortest.
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