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Over the last few years I have encountered several hands (sorry no examples here, but I expect that other good players will remember some of their own) where the auction goes off the rails because one partner has a shortage in a suit bid naturally by the other, and consequently devalues his hand, only later to discover that partner's suit was not that good, or maybe headed by Ace alone, and the shortage opposite it is an asset when playing in a different suit. Nearly all systems that I have played have no facility to show shortage in partner's suit as a constructive try for slam in an alternative strain. Have any others taken this on board and set up some meta agreements for this?
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Splinters in partner's suit
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Posted 2011-July-26, 23:43
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
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r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
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Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
str-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2011-July-27, 01:45
After 1NT-2♣-2M I have a way to show shortness in opener's Major (3♣ is a puppet to 3♦, after which we show the shortness), this can be useful when we're looking for slam.
In natural auctions it's a lot more difficult, but when a suit is set we can jump in any suit to show shortness (this is usually voidwood though).
That's pretty much it for me.
In natural auctions it's a lot more difficult, but when a suit is set we can jump in any suit to show shortness (this is usually voidwood though).
That's pretty much it for me.
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Counting modulo five
Posted 2011-July-27, 08:34
This is a good question. I don't do so myself, but I've seen some play e.g. 1♦-1♠;2♠-4♦ as a splinter.
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Posted 2011-July-27, 13:31
I use short suit trials in sequences like 1m - 1M - 2M, and in 1M - 2♣ - 2red - 2M so I have them available in some places but usually not.
This situation is often handled with opposite way of using bluhmer/empathetic splinter to show a suit that works well opposite shortness.
I have that tool in 1m - 1M - 3NT - 4M sequence. (3NT shows solid suit and sidestoppers)
This situation is often handled with opposite way of using bluhmer/empathetic splinter to show a suit that works well opposite shortness.
I have that tool in 1m - 1M - 3NT - 4M sequence. (3NT shows solid suit and sidestoppers)
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Posted 2011-July-27, 14:14
We play:
1x 1y
2y 4x as a splinter
1x 1y
1z 4x as a splinter
1♣ 1♠
1NT 2♥ (transfer)
2♠ 3♣ as shortage (and similar auctions)
There are probably some other auctions too.
1x 1y
2y 4x as a splinter
1x 1y
1z 4x as a splinter
1♣ 1♠
1NT 2♥ (transfer)
2♠ 3♣ as shortage (and similar auctions)
There are probably some other auctions too.
Wayne Burrows
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Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2011-July-27, 14:23
I had this problem recently playing 2/1. Well?
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Posted 2011-July-27, 15:11
"I had this problem recently playing 2/1. Well?" -- Gerben42
** Exclusion 5C? After 4H accepted.
** But I do see your point. After a reverse + rebid 3S,
** can 5C agree clubs? Bizarre! Yet, what if 5=6=0=2? 5D exclusion?
** Exclusion 5C? After 4H accepted.
** But I do see your point. After a reverse + rebid 3S,
** can 5C agree clubs? Bizarre! Yet, what if 5=6=0=2? 5D exclusion?
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Posted 2011-August-18, 12:34
Having bid 3 suits, we play jump in 4th suit as splinter in openers 1st suit. This is more frequent than splinter in openers suit. Admittedly, we give up showing a 2 suiter.
If I have made this specific agreement, then I will keep the agreement.
A partner can convince me to play nearly anything, but if partner breaks agreements, then you will fairly fast reach the point, that I wont be interested in playing any longer. Stick to your agreements.
Marlowe (Uwe Gebhardt)
A partner can convince me to play nearly anything, but if partner breaks agreements, then you will fairly fast reach the point, that I wont be interested in playing any longer. Stick to your agreements.
Marlowe (Uwe Gebhardt)
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