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If you don't open 1♣, try the same problem with your choice of opening bid. Partner's hand doesn't matter unless you care about results, so I've given you no UI.
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Posted 2011-June-22, 15:55
At Imps, red vs white, you hear
Your call?
If you don't open 1♣, try the same problem with your choice of opening bid. Partner's hand doesn't matter unless you care about results, so I've given you no UI.
Your call?
If you don't open 1♣, try the same problem with your choice of opening bid. Partner's hand doesn't matter unless you care about results, so I've given you no UI.
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Posted 2011-June-22, 16:31
4♣, just in case pard has a flattish 4333. This is wrong if he has 4252/4342 though. If I was sure pard had strong spades, say QT9x, I'd bid 4 of that.
I have extras, but 5m seems a long way opposite a passed hand. I think this will depend on the defree of heart wastage and I don't have a way to gauge that. Hence the underbid.
I have extras, but 5m seems a long way opposite a passed hand. I think this will depend on the defree of heart wastage and I don't have a way to gauge that. Hence the underbid.
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Posted 2011-June-22, 16:59
4♥, hopefully partner will choose a minor. If he bids 4♠ I don't know what I'll do... Pass? 4NT? 4♣ doesn't show the diamonds, that's why I don't like it.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
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Posted 2011-June-22, 17:21
First four votes, four different calls. Four different strains even (well, one doesn't count as a strain)!
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Posted 2011-June-22, 17:30
4♥ planning to pass 4♠ happily if partner bids it.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2011-June-22, 17:38
I'm sure I've seen this sequence before but I still haven't learned the lesson. Is 4♥ choice-of-games? Does it deny four spades? Is there any way to show a slam-try with spades?
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Posted 2011-June-22, 20:16
4NT pick a minor game.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2011-June-24, 10:13
For those who do like to know results:
I bid 3♠, figuring it was perhaps right, and also gave us a shot at 3NT. Partner should have some hearts; maybe he has a stopper. In retrospect, I doubt partner has both a stopper and only 3hearts spades, and with 4 spades he's passing or raising to game.
Partner held:
3♠ was off 1 whendummy my hand was tapped. 5♣ makes, but I think only thehog gets there unless some of the 4♥ bidders are bidding again over 4♠. Possibly if I'm going to stop short of game I should bid 4♣ like whereagles: not resulting but because the logic of 3♠ was somewhat flawed I now realize.
Added: Likely our 4♦ bidders also get to 5♣.
I bid 3♠, figuring it was perhaps right, and also gave us a shot at 3NT. Partner should have some hearts; maybe he has a stopper. In retrospect, I doubt partner has both a stopper and only 3
Partner held:
3♠ was off 1 when
Added: Likely our 4♦ bidders also get to 5♣.
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Posted 2011-June-24, 10:18
semeai, on 2011-June-24, 10:13, said:
Partner held:
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Posted 2011-June-24, 10:19
Concealing 5-card support, when partner made a game forcing bid asking about our distribution, is just plain rude!
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2011-June-24, 10:22
Actually, does partner bid 3NT with 4 spades and a stopper? With fewer than 4 spades and a stopper I guess he just bids 3NT directly. So maybe I continue to like 3♠.
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Posted 2011-June-24, 10:26
He should bid 3NT on some hands with a heart stop, but not automatically.
3♠ is good on some 3145 hands but this one is too strong. We would like to be in game opposite a 3-level negative double, so we should force to game with 4♥ and should not make a non-forcing bid. Hopefully partner doesn't automatically rebid 4♠ over 4♥ just to repeat what we already know. Hopefully partner will bid 5♣ with 5-card support.
3♠ is good on some 3145 hands but this one is too strong. We would like to be in game opposite a 3-level negative double, so we should force to game with 4♥ and should not make a non-forcing bid. Hopefully partner doesn't automatically rebid 4♠ over 4♥ just to repeat what we already know. Hopefully partner will bid 5♣ with 5-card support.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2011-June-24, 10:30
gwnn, on 2011-June-24, 10:26, said:
He should bid 3NT on some hands with a heart stop, but not automatically.
3♠ is good on some 3145 hands but this one is too strong. We would like to be in game opposite a 3-level negative double, so we should force to game with 4♥ and should not make a non-forcing bid. Hopefully partner doesn't automatically rebid 4♠ over 4♥ just to repeat what we already know. Hopefully partner will bid 5♣ with 5-card support.
3♠ is good on some 3145 hands but this one is too strong. We would like to be in game opposite a 3-level negative double, so we should force to game with 4♥ and should not make a non-forcing bid. Hopefully partner doesn't automatically rebid 4♠ over 4♥ just to repeat what we already know. Hopefully partner will bid 5♣ with 5-card support.
You're right, partner may well bid 5♣ over 4♥, especially with only ♠10xxx.
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Posted 2011-June-26, 08:53
I would have passed with partner's hand.
I really don't understand 4NT in response to the dobule, I would think that 4D is clearly better, and 4H is better as well.
If 4H is choice of games then partner should obviously not bid 4S on 10xxx.
I really don't understand 4NT in response to the dobule, I would think that 4D is clearly better, and 4H is better as well.
If 4H is choice of games then partner should obviously not bid 4S on 10xxx.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2011-June-26, 08:54
Good problem btw.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2011-June-26, 11:29
semeai, on 2011-June-24, 10:13, said:
3♠ was off 1 when dummy my hand was tapped. 5♣ makes, but I think only thehog gets there unless some of the 4♥ bidders are bidding again over 4♠.
I voted for 4♥, and over 4♠ I do indeed pass, and subsequently look for a new partner.
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Posted 2011-August-02, 12:33
Necro/Addendum (my apologies for the necro):
I was looking at some old challenge the champs hands and came across this: (Hands are approximate as I set it aside and don't have it in front of me now, but I think I have it right.)
West:
Axx
x
QJxx
AKxxx
East:
Kxxx
Txx
AK
Qxxx
Bertheau-Nystrom had the auction 2C* (3H) X (P); 4H (P) 6C end, for top marks. (2C precision)
Wooldridge-Hurd had the auction 1C (3H) X (P); 4D (P) 5C end, the second best spot.
I was looking at some old challenge the champs hands and came across this: (Hands are approximate as I set it aside and don't have it in front of me now, but I think I have it right.)
West:
Axx
x
QJxx
AKxxx
East:
Kxxx
Txx
AK
Qxxx
Bertheau-Nystrom had the auction 2C* (3H) X (P); 4H (P) 6C end, for top marks. (2C precision)
Wooldridge-Hurd had the auction 1C (3H) X (P); 4D (P) 5C end, the second best spot.
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