[Mbodell]

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Do you move? If so how. Should you have moved before? (team IMP match)

[WellSpyder]

I would have bid 2N on the previous round. Having passed, I think I have to show some signs of life despite the potentially wasted values in clubs and would bid 5♣.

[qwery_hi]

Mbodell, on 2011-July-27, 01:20, said:

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Do you move? If so how. Should you have moved before? (team IMP match)

At this vul, I would pass on the previous round, and bid 4NT RKC now.

[Cyberyeti]

WellSpyder, on 2011-July-27, 03:23, said:

I would have bid 2N on the previous round. Having passed, I think I have to show some signs of life despite the potentially wasted values in clubs and would bid 5♣.

Agree with the sentiments, I'd have bid 2N first time, would bid 4N now. 5♣ works if you're missing cashing ♥AK, 4N is better if you're missing an ace and either ace or queen of spades, so you pays your money and takes your choice.

[whereagles]

Of course I move. 4NT.

[Fluffy]

RHO has 9+ HCP outside clubs, looks like he has 2 tricks unless ♠Qx + ♥K or ♥KJ. Passing is a good option if you trust your opponents more than partner.

I would had bid 2NT the previous round.

[quiddity]

I'd bid 2NT the round before - we might find a heart game or we might shut out their spade fit. And I pass now, trusting the vulnerable opponent to have his bid. We don't even have 5-level safety here.

[barryallen]

Mbodell, on 2011-July-27, 01:20, said:

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Do you move? If so how. Should you have moved before? (team IMP match)

This board looks to have the ability for a lay down grand slam to just collecting 10 tricks in ♠. Looking at Easts and Norths bids and Souths holding, it would not surprise me for East to show up with something like

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Then again with Norths bid, which looks mainly constructive given Easts defined 2♣ bid and Wests subsequent pass, giving something like

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to

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The question this comes down to for me is whether I believe partner has 2 or more ♥? To me this is just a punt, but a reasonable punt and a lot would depend upon the state and stage of the game. If you use RKC you run the risk of getting a double from East indicating a possible ♦ void or any other wanting the ♥ lead. If I can get a ♣ lead, I fancy our chances of making the slam and would just blast the 6♠ because I don't believe partner would have bid the 4♠ with the hand I assigned to him.

It's possible that there is a lay down grand but I can see no way of knowing that until committed to the 7 level. 6♠ may go down but I don't see how RKC will help most of the time until too late, whereas bidding 6♠ directly has the possibility of making a slam you had no natural entitlement.

[mikeh]

I echo those who would have bid 2N initially, tho I can see the attraction to passing at these colours....we are expecting to go plus in 100's and even if we miss game, we may go +300 on defence.

Having passed, we have our favourable vul. partner jump to 4♠....bear in mind that this isn't the same as a direct overcall...he will be playing us for some values since responder passed and opener was limited.

In addition, if we give partner the missing spade cards and opener the club Q, it's easy to see that opener rates to have either both red Aces or the heart AK or even all three.

4N is a waste of breath...no way does partner hold 3 keycards....rho is red v white 1st seat, with a Qxxxx(x) suit and he didn't psyche.

So you can't possibly know what to do over a 2 keycard response, and opposite 1kc, why are we bothering?


If we want to look for slam, we bid 5♣. Over 5♥ we can take a chance and bid slam, hoping that the spades come home...we rate to have 12 winners if that happens.


Over 5♦, we bid 5♠, focussing on the heart problem, and partner will still bid some of the good slams...and maybe a few bad ones.....AJ10xxxxx opposite stiff K, and the heart A cashing.

To me the key in these situations is whether slam MAY be cold and we have safety at the 5-level. By safety, I don't mean iron-clad safety. Certainly slam may be cold. So the question becomes how likely is it that partner made this call with no red Ace or King? Well, if he has 9 spades, all bets are off, but maybe he has a stiff heart then If he has 8 spades, AQJ10xxxx xx xx x, as one example?

I don't know this partner, so this is tough. To me this is finely balanced, but I think we should pass. I'll feel worse for 5♠ down 1 than I will for 4♠ making 6. That persuades me that my gut thinks that slam is unlikely, and, given the size and experience of my gut, I'll respect it.

[Cyberyeti]

I can see a case for 6N arriving at some point, let LHO try to find the heart lead if we are missing the AK.

[Mbodell]

One of my team mates was a little upset on this auction because South had a BIT over the 2♣ bid but turbo passed the 4♠ without even pausing for thought (which he took as my BIT already showed my values, so of course I'll pass your 4♠). But a fair number of folks are passing here, so it isn't at all clear that there is any problem with South's action. Also nothing bad happens if you keycard as you are off 2 keys, but safe at the 5 level.

At the other table it was a "could be short" 1♣ opener and the South hand bid 1nt and North texas transferred to spades and passed.

The North hand was AQJ9xxxxx x xx x. So you lose the two red aces but that is it (no defensive ruffs available). At my table defense got off to the heart lead against 4 spades, on a club lead you'd make 6.