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#1 User is offline   kfay 

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Posted 2010-October-18, 09:16

Here's a hand that my partner, Jason Chiu, played like a true pro in our semi-final match against Israel in the Junior Championships.

How do you think it should be played?

Scoring: IMP<br/><br/>1-1
1NT-2* GF
2-3
3NT-4
4-4NT
5-(Dbl!!)-6


Lead is a very small spade (3rd low)

As a side note, it's clearly superior to side the contract in the North hand. Does anyone have any agreements over the double of 5 that might be able solve this problem? How about any agreements at all?

I'm pretty sure I know the correct way to play, I'll post my thoughts in a few days.
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Posted 2010-October-18, 09:26

did the opps lead something?
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-October-18, 10:13

kfay, on Oct 18 2010, 10:16 AM, said:

As a side note, it's clearly superior to side the contract in the North hand. Does anyone have any agreements over the double of 5 that might be able solve this problem? How about any agreements at all?

North will declare NT; south will declare hearts. What kind of agreement beyond placing the contract in 6H or 6N are you looking for?
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Posted 2010-October-18, 10:26

I'm pretty sure it's stuff like how do you know North has the J :rolleyes:.

Anyway:

Pass: Pick a slam- showing no spade control
Redouble: Pick a slam- with control
Rest: normal.

Note: Pass and Redouble deny grand slam interest.
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Posted 2010-October-18, 10:33

TimG, on Oct 18 2010, 11:13 AM, said:

kfay, on Oct 18 2010, 10:16 AM, said:

As a side note, it's clearly superior to side the contract in the North hand.  Does anyone have any agreements over the double of 5 that might be able solve this problem?  How about any agreements at all?

North will declare NT; south will declare hearts. What kind of agreement beyond placing the contract in 6H or 6N are you looking for?

lol

dude. get with it
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Posted 2010-October-18, 11:25

kfay, on Oct 18 2010, 11:33 AM, said:

TimG, on Oct 18 2010, 11:13 AM, said:

kfay, on Oct 18 2010, 10:16 AM, said:

As a side note, it's clearly superior to side the contract in the North hand.  Does anyone have any agreements over the double of 5 that might be able solve this problem?  How about any agreements at all?

North will declare NT; south will declare hearts. What kind of agreement beyond placing the contract in 6H or 6N are you looking for?

lol

dude. get with it

looks like the strip is the only workable play unless by eyes deceive me (which easily could be likely)
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Posted 2010-October-18, 11:36

RHO decided to double 5 but not 4, so placing LHO with Q looks reasonable to me.

So playing low spade its a fair shot With the additional chance of RHO wining Q because he is asleep, and then we have a squeeze chance, I gotta think wich one because it is not as easy as it seemed at the start.


EDIT: Its a non simultaneous double squeeze playing A early and leaving Q stiff in dummy
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Posted 2010-October-18, 11:53

I don't think you need any special agreements to place the contract correctly on this deal. South knows that there are 11 tricks in aces, kings and trumps. If North has Q or Q, either slam is making. If North has J or QJ and we have to take a finesse, we can do that in 6NT just as easily as in 6. If North has Q or J, the benefits of playing from North are obvious. Hence South should bid 6NT himself.
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Posted 2010-October-18, 11:55

Fluffy, on Oct 18 2010, 06:36 PM, said:

EDIT: Its a non simultaneous double squeeze playing A early and leaving Q stiff in dummy

East, who aspires to be a world champion, switches to a diamond at trick two.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-October-18, 11:56

it would be much easier that he wins K instead of the queen then :P
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Posted 2010-October-18, 12:24

kfay, on Oct 18 2010, 03:16 PM, said:

As a side note, it's clearly superior to side the contract in the North hand. Does anyone have any agreements over the double of 5 that might be able solve this problem? How about any agreements at all?

Pass as a king ask with spade loser, Redouble to show no spade losers, and 5NT as a suit ask in spades seems logical.
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Posted 2010-October-20, 03:36

I see only 11 cards in the North hand and 12 in the South, but seeing as no-one else has commented it must just be me :(
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Posted 2010-October-20, 03:49

View PostSlmplicity, on 2010-October-20, 03:36, said:

I see only 11 cards in the North hand and 12 in the South, but seeing as no-one else has commented it must just be me :(

Maybe a problem with the conversion to the new forums, I see only 11 and 12 cards as well.
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Posted 2010-October-20, 03:54

View PostFree, on 2010-October-20, 03:49, said:

Maybe a problem with the conversion to the new forums, I see only 11 and 12 cards as well.


It seems "T"s were lost in translation.

The original hand was AJx QTx Qxxx ATx opposite Tx AKJxxxx Ax Kx

Not sure how to put x's into the hand diagrams so you just have text for now.
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Posted 2010-October-27, 13:16

Kevin what happened on tis hand?
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Posted 2010-October-27, 13:37

Yes, much better slam from North.

Here is my answer

[hidden]Now you have to play East for both Spade honors and the diamond king, and out guess him. Win the Spade Ace now. Run hearts and clubs, hoping to force East to one spade honor and Kx of diamonds. Throw him in with the spade for a lead away from the diamond King. He might try to trick you by pitching a spade honor from KQx and keep the stiff king of diamonds, so you need to keep your thinking cap on. Keep the club entry and diamond control so he can not try such foolishness, or you give up a spade to establish your spade Jack while you still have an entry.

Other options.
1, A spade=diamond squeeze on East will not work, as both threats are in front of East's hand.
2. You might consider a compound squeeze as well, with the idea being to duck trick one. The problem with that is East can keep the second spade honor and any two diamonds, so no "double squeeze" will develop.
3. Third option is to duck the first trick, and play for a minor suit squeeze on West, requiring him to hold K, and QJ. This one is about the same chances as the vulnerable stopper squeeze noted above. The advantage of this play, is that no outguessing is needed when it is right. But I will go with hidden [/hidden]
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