[dake50]

'kayin801' South is a chikun. And a chicken.
Those are not the same only spelled different. South also cheek-un.

[olegru]

Wow! Majority of voters blaming South! Surprize.
Let’s see together.
First dbl of South strongest call available for him, 13+ points.
1♥ from North the weakest call available. Promise 0-6 points and 3+ ♥.
2♦ from South again one of the strongest calls available for him, at least 19+ points.
2♥ from North again the weakest call available. Promise 0-3 points and 4♥.
3♥ of South is invitational. He has more than he promised by his previous bidding but not enough to bid game across something like:
♠ 432
♥ 9752
♦ 432
♣ 432
Isn’t it almost exactly that South actually has?
North got invited. He had maximum for his previous bidding. 3 points and doubleton in oppopnent suit! He just could not have more. And he passed! Isn't it is clear who made a mistake?

I agree South is overly pessimistic, his 5th ♥ is a serious asset and in IMPs he could just bid game and hope for the best. But he probably expected his expert partner to be aware of concept of invitation.

[No_Duck]

bucky, on 2010-October-25, 18:54, said:

Can I assign 100% for both?

The cuebid after double is often based on 3-card in partner's suit. But 3♥ should change this message. With only 3-card hearts and no clear direction (but too good to pass 2♥), South should've followed up with 3♦. Therefore North has a clear 4♥ bid. Of course that doesn't mean South is less guilty: had North not held ♥K, game is still good, so South should insist on game. And we arrive at a familiar pattern again: it takes two to reach the disaster.

Yes ! both diserve a huge blame !!!!

the first North bid do not promise 4♥ so on this sequel, he should bid the game with a keycard, a real suit and a doubleton !

South should bid the game whatever north answer on 3♦ cue-bid

this make south 100% & north 100% (I voted mostly South because I didn't found responsability both 100%

[OleBerg]

olegru, on 2010-October-27, 09:47, said:

He has more than he promised by his previous bidding but not enough to bid game across something like:
♠ 432
♥ 9752
♦ 432
♣ 432
Isn’t it almost exactly that South actually has?

No.

You don't need to beef up my example hand with such tremendous values as a doubleton and a King. Just add a non♣-Jack, the ♦Q or a doubleton spade or diamond, and game is reasonable.

[olegru]

Agree. I would accept with 2 Jacks. I believe it is difference in invitation stiles. Some people are like to invite lightly and need a real maximum to accept invitation. Others are conservative in invitations but do not need too much to accept them, just not a complete minimum.
Did South have too much to invite or not depends of their invitation stile, but North have more than enough to accept the invitation whichever partnership stile they use.

[bucky]

If South has to invite with the actual hand (and expect North to accept with a jack or two), then South would have to pass 2♥ without ♣Q, and lose a good game.

Yes, when North is exactly 3433 and completely yarborough, you don't want to be in game (but even then, game not totally hopeless). Give North 5th heart or a doubleton in spades or diamonds, game is quite reasonable. South hand is clearly too heavy to just invite, no matter what your style tends to be.

Of course all said above doesn't negate the argument that North has a clear accept over 3♥.

[dake50]

South must be afraid there is no entry North -- way too pessimistic!

[bucky]

dake50, on 2010-October-27, 22:22, said:

South must be afraid there is no entry North -- way too pessimistic!

Even if North's hearts are as bad as 9752, there is 40% chance to have 2 entries in trumps.

[the hog]

OleBerg, on 2010-October-25, 14:39, said:

North 100%. 4♥ is automatic.

South is obviously insane, hence free from guilt. (4♥ is has some play facing ♠432/♥9754/♦432/♣432)

I like Ole's post. This is an obvious 4H bid over 3H, so it has to be Nth's fault for playing with South.

[Free]

I have to admit I was the insane South here. Apparently I was just too pessimistic after the other 2 hands I posted recently...