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If it can happen here... WBF - 73D

#1 User is offline   Phil 

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Posted 2010-October-15, 15:22

Final - World Open Pairs - from vugraph earlier

Scoring: MP

1# - 2 - pass - 4;
5 - pass - pass - 5;
6* - pass - pass - x


# - strong club (pass is probably some sort of negative)
* - supposed long tank


The 6 bidder caught a 6=2=3=2 bust but it was enough to score up +1090. 6 is -500 (I think - no more than 800 do not remember for sure)

The doubler stated that 6 took a long time to be bid, which might have induced the x and certainly deterred 6. The director was not called.

Personally I thought that the 5...6 bidder is 'walking the dog', but if this is the case, 6 needs to be made in tempo. While my bridge judgment does not matter, I think this was a likely 73D2 violation.

What do you think?
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Posted 2010-October-15, 15:51

No its a tough decision in a high level competitive auction. I don't think the tempo is likely to have been designed to mislead here.
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Posted 2010-October-15, 19:53

Behind screens, how could the doubler know which player took the time? East is screenmate with North. South and West are screenmates and they both had decisions to make. South = what to bid, West = whether to sacrifice. Moreover, tempo in highly competitive auction at the six-level is normally slower. Even with my suspicious tendencies, I cannot attribute any designs to any tempo. East was suffering from "buyer's remorse".
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Posted 2010-October-16, 00:05

peachy, on Oct 15 2010, 08:53 PM, said:

Behind screens, how could the doubler know which player took the time?

The doubler (south) would be looking directly at his screenmate (west) who bid 6.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 01:08

Phil, on Oct 15 2010, 04:22 PM, said:

Final - World Open Pairs - from vugraph earlier

Scoring: MP

1# - 2 - pass - 4;
5 - pass - pass - 5;
6* - pass - pass - x


# - strong club (pass is probably some sort of negative)
* - supposed long tank

In your post South opened 1C. West overcalled 2H, and in the end, East doubled 6D. East, the doubler, is not on the same side of the screen as the 6D bidder.
Am I mistaking the auction?
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Posted 2010-October-16, 11:30

peachy, on Oct 16 2010, 02:08 AM, said:

Phil, on Oct 15 2010, 04:22 PM, said:

Final - World Open Pairs - from vugraph earlier

Dealer: South
Vul: None
Scoring: MP
 
x
AKQJxxxx
AKJx
1# - 2 - pass - 4;
5 - pass - pass - 5;
6* - pass - pass - x


# - strong club (pass is probably some sort of negative)
* - supposed long tank 

In your post South opened 1C. West overcalled 2H, and in the end, East doubled 6D. East, the doubler, is not on the same side of the screen as the 6D bidder.
Am I mistaking the auction?

No I definitely misposted. West was the dealer and opened 1. I'll fix.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 11:58

I actually think the better bid (at pairs) is double, but 6D worked on this occasion. I don't see how the player could possibly have known that a break in tempo would work to his advantage, and, in any case, a demonstrable bridge reason - whether to bid 6D or double - is an absolute defence. For a 73F adjustment, we would also need to show that the defender drew a false inference from the BIT. All he could conclude was that the person had a difficult choice, which was indeed the case.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 12:26

Phil, on Oct 16 2010, 12:30 PM, said:

peachy, on Oct 16 2010, 02:08 AM, said:

Phil, on Oct 15 2010, 04:22 PM, said:

Final - World Open Pairs - from vugraph earlier

<!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> South </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> None </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> MP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> x </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> AKQJxxxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> AKJx </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> 1# - 2 - pass - 4;
5 - pass - pass - 5;
6* - pass - pass - x


# - strong club (pass is probably some sort of negative)
* - supposed long tank  </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end -->

In your post South opened 1C. West overcalled 2H, and in the end, East doubled 6D. East, the doubler, is not on the same side of the screen as the 6D bidder.
Am I mistaking the auction?

No I definitely misposted. West was the dealer and opened 1. I'll fix.

Well, I'm happy that I wasn't seeing ghosts :)

The 6D bidder had a valid bridge reason for his/her thinking. I've been known to be more suspicious of motives or statements than your average "regulation freak" but this break in tempo IMO is legitimate because he had a difficult decision to make.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 14:01

Today's bulletin (PDF) has Zia's unbelievable auction to six diamonds.

Suffice to say that it included supporting partner's spades twice (!).

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