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#1 User is offline   Tomi2 

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Posted 2010-October-18, 18:11

you hold:

qj86 - kxxx - jxxx - q and lead vs 1nt ppp
spade 6, 4th

dummy comes down
T742 - qxx - xxx - jxx,

the 7 is played, parter follows the 9, decl wins the K and returns 5

do you play your partner for A9 or declarer for AK5x stealing a trick now?

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at my table in philly my op took another 30 seconds to follow the 9 after my normal play from dummy. it took more than those 10 sec. to enter contract to the bridgemate, find out about their leads and think if playing the 10 could have been right. nobody claimed i was too fast and opps agreed on their BIT but td ruled that in first trick you are allowed to think longer without consequences...

can somebody confirm this?
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Posted 2010-October-18, 18:14

Yes.
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  Posted 2010-October-18, 18:58

Having come up with two diametrically opposed answers I have decided I do not understand th question.

Who thought, when? Third hand or declarer? Do you mean the thought was before the 9 or after?
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Posted 2010-October-18, 19:05

I think it was defender (third hand) who thought for 30 seconds and that made it easy for the other defender (opening leader).
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Posted 2010-October-18, 19:29

yes. posted the problem from the point of opening leader to point out that splitting the honors is not just a LA, its the correct play imo. his pd took his time with a9 sec.
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Posted 2010-October-18, 19:56

awsome..3rd hand took a long time to come up with the wrong answer, and declarer didn't have anything better to do at trick two than to read the hitch and create a ruling situation??
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Posted 2010-October-20, 10:17

View Postaguahombre, on 2010-October-18, 19:56, said:

awsome..3rd hand took a long time to come up with the wrong answer, and declarer didn't have anything better to do at trick two than to read the hitch and create a ruling situation??


a) isnt he alowed to take advantage of opps mistakes?
B) what should he play from axx vs qxx, aktx vs xxx and kxx vs jxx... all suits seem te best played by opps. so even if they cash their spade tricks correctly, they must open one of the other suits
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