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N......S
1♦ - 1♥
2♣ - 2♠
3♣ - 3♦
3♥ - 4♥
Lead: ♠3. 4th best.
A) East wins the ace and returns a small trump
B) East wins the ace and returns ♠4 - 7- 8 - ♥3
What now in each of the cases?
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Posted 2010-September-03, 10:56
N......S
1♦ - 1♥
2♣ - 2♠
3♣ - 3♦
3♥ - 4♥
Lead: ♠3. 4th best.
A) East wins the ace and returns a small trump
B) East wins the ace and returns ♠4 - 7- 8 - ♥3
What now in each of the cases?
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Posted 2010-September-03, 19:02
Can't I just be dummy in 5♦ instead?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-September-04, 03:32
gnasher, on Sep 4 2010, 03:02 AM, said:
Can't I just be dummy in 5♦ instead?
No. The rules are unfortunately so that you are not allowed to change the contract after dummy has come down.
I was not N/S at this table. So I'm not really interested in the bidding.
Michael Askgaard
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Posted 2010-September-04, 03:56
I've got this far:
On a trump return, I finesse. If that works, I run ♣Q. If that works too, I either:
- Cash two top trumps and take another club finesse, or
- Ruff a spade, play ♣A, club ruff, and the top trumps.
I haven't decided which one yet - I'd like to be at the table when the first round of clubs is played.
The lask of a 1♠ overcall from either hand is interesting. If ♥Q is onside, I think LHO probably has the five-card spade suit.
On a trump return, I finesse. If that works, I run ♣Q. If that works too, I either:
- Cash two top trumps and take another club finesse, or
- Ruff a spade, play ♣A, club ruff, and the top trumps.
I haven't decided which one yet - I'd like to be at the table when the first round of clubs is played.
The lask of a 1♠ overcall from either hand is interesting. If ♥Q is onside, I think LHO probably has the five-card spade suit.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-September-05, 03:31
The question is whether to take the trump finesse or not.
If you take the finesse and it looses you are dead after a spade return.
If the trump finesse wins your chances have improved but you are still not out of the woods.
If the trump finesse works and you refuse it you are not down yet.
I would go up with the ace of hearts and run the ♣Q.
Establishing tricks and communication between hand and dummy seems more important.
The continuation will depend on what happens in the ♣ suit.
If the ♣ finesse fails and a trump comes back I will probably have to take the trump finesse now.
If the ♣ finesse wins I will continue ♣ and try to get rid of some ♠ loser. If East ruffs the third round of ♣ you can over ruff and ruff a spade in dummy and ruff a club before drawing a second round of trumps and taking the ♦ finesse.
Rainer Herrmann
If you take the finesse and it looses you are dead after a spade return.
If the trump finesse wins your chances have improved but you are still not out of the woods.
If the trump finesse works and you refuse it you are not down yet.
I would go up with the ace of hearts and run the ♣Q.
Establishing tricks and communication between hand and dummy seems more important.
The continuation will depend on what happens in the ♣ suit.
If the ♣ finesse fails and a trump comes back I will probably have to take the trump finesse now.
If the ♣ finesse wins I will continue ♣ and try to get rid of some ♠ loser. If East ruffs the third round of ♣ you can over ruff and ruff a spade in dummy and ruff a club before drawing a second round of trumps and taking the ♦ finesse.
Rainer Herrmann
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