[gnasher]

Well, we know what 2♦ meant, because Han said

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2D didn't say anything about strength

He didn't say anything about a negative over 3♦, so presumably our 3NT bid was consistent with xxx xxx xx xxxxx.

4♠ obviously showed the ace or king, so we showed some strength at that point. Can we have as little as Kxx xxx xx xxxxx, or should it promise more? I don't know.

[bluecalm]

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5♥ seems best: partner knows I don't have first- or second-round control, so this must show the queen.

Yeah that's interesting option I completely missed when considering my answer.

[mgoetze]

hanp, on Aug 24 2010, 03:23 PM, said:

Qxxx
109x
Jx
AQxx

Red against white

p - p - 1C - Dbl
1S - (2D) - Dbl* - p
??

Partner's double showed exactly 3 spades.

I'll have to remember this one next time someone asks me why I dislike support doubles.

[Fluffy]

JLOGIC, on Aug 24 2010, 06:19 PM, said:

Wow I would automatically bid 2S on the first one.

refreshing, I was feeling so lonely for the bid I though was obvious.

On the others I'd bid 3♦ and I just don't know, I like the suggestion I just read about 5♥ now, but partner must be on the same wavelenght.

[hanp]

On the first one you will score 110 no matter which you pick. My partner bid 3C, at the other table they bid 2S.

On the second I passed, glad mikeh is there to help me get over my loss as both 3C and 3D made. I felt the similar as he did, the hand is barely an opener and I didn't think that I could bid a new suit at the three level.

On the third hand I had Axx A AKQ10xxx Ax. If you bid 5D I won't be pleased. If you bid 6D I will pass fearing you might have the spade king and QJx of clubs. If you bid 5S I will try for 7 and bid 6NT. Not sure what I'd do over 5H, a bid I enjoyed very much. I also thank Andy for reading my original post.

[jdonn]

The only one I feel very strongly about is forcing to slam on the 3rd. 5♥ is an interesting bid I wouldn't have considered. I'm pretty sure 3♦ is right on the second, and I really have no idea which bid between 2♠ and 3♣ is more likely to work on the first.

[JLOGIC]

Sorry Han I think your pass on the 2nd hand is terrible You have the stiff club and it's pretty likely partner will not be able to reopen when both 3C and 3D are making.

Hate to use the LAW but it looks like there is probably ~17 total trumps and I would guess 18 is more likely than 16, and we also have good diamonds and our spades are good for offense (the suit we expect partner not to have 3 of, the ace empty fifth is a very nice holding), so if there are adjustments it's upwards not downwards. It also looks like the points are distributed about evenly. It's just a classic hand type where we need to compete to 3D over 3C.

You will win if partner has extra values and will X 3C and pass 3D, but bid on over 3D, but that seems like a less likely hand type and even if he does have that hand type we could easily survive in 4D.

On top of all of this, what if it's a big fit type hand and LHO is about to bid 5C and we need to bid 5D either as a save or a make? That is not ruled out at all yet, and in that case it is very important that we bid 3D right now imo.

It seems like you overthought this one.

I did not comment on this one or the last one because I thought they were equally obvious (ok the last one is not obvious WHAT to bid, but you must drive to 6 of course).

[hanp]

Definitely agree Justin.

[JLOGIC]

hanp, on Aug 24 2010, 07:53 PM, said:

Definitely agree Justin.

Do you prefer 3C or 2S on the first one btw, you never said. I guess with such bad spades 3C might be right but it still feels weird to me to risk a possible 4-3 fit at the 3 level.

[cherdanno]

Yeah of course Andy was right, 6D is lazy.
Btw, Han, when did you get too shy to bid new suits at the 3-level? You've only been back in Europe for a year!

[hanp]

JLOGIC, on Aug 24 2010, 07:57 PM, said:

hanp, on Aug 24 2010, 07:53 PM, said:

Definitely agree Justin.

Do you prefer 3C or 2S on the first one btw, you never said. I guess with such bad spades 3C might be right but it still feels weird to me to risk a possible 4-3 fit at the 3 level.

It's close for me because my partner picked 3C and my girlfriend said she'd bid 2S.

[benlessard]

Im not in the habit of making a support double here with 3433 shape. Why do you want to compete at imps when LTT is likely to be 14 trumps ?.

At MP i can understand that 2S down 1-2 could still be good if NV.