[Simplicity]

1.

Scoring: MP

1♥-(3♠)-?

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Would you feel any different playing a weak NT and 4cM?

2.

Scoring: MP

1♥-(3♠)-?

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Pass was forcing

[pooltuna]

1) 6♥ - Basically looks like a 30 point deck and your side looks to have 27+

2) 6♦ - hope you don't have 2♥ losers

[MFA]

1) 5NT- pick a slam. We probably have a grand but I don't want to shoot it.
2) 5♥. Invitational to slam if partner has a spade control.

[jamegumb]

1) If partner has two non-ace spades, even a small slam isn't going to happen. I'll try 4♦ and 5♥ over 4♥.

2) 6♦; I'll assume partner had a different bid last round if he had a two (or three) suited hand.

[JLOGIC]

MFA, on Sep 3 2010, 12:02 PM, said:

1) 5NT- pick a slam. We probably have a grand but I don't want to shoot it.
2) 5♥. Invitational to slam if partner has a spade control.

Huh? I just woke up so maybe I'm missing something but I don't understand what you mean.

edit: Ok, you just flipped the hands, I'm a moron.

I would just bid 4H on hand 1, and 5S on hand 2.

[jdonn]

JLOGIC, on Sep 3 2010, 01:11 PM, said:

MFA, on Sep 3 2010, 12:02 PM, said:

1) 5NT- pick a slam. We probably have a grand but I don't want to shoot it.
2) 5♥. Invitational to slam if partner has a spade control.

Huh? I just woke up so maybe I'm missing something but I don't understand what you mean.

edit: Ok, you just flipped the hands, I'm a moron.

I would just bid 4H on hand 1, and 5S on hand 2.

Same, including initial confusion over MFA lol.

pooltuna, on Sep 3 2010, 11:04 AM, said:

1) 6♥ - Basically looks like a 30 point deck and your side looks to have 27+

I'm confused by this comment. Overcalling 3♠ shows 9 spades?

[Simplicity]

JLOGIC, on Sep 3 2010, 01:11 PM, said:

I would just bid 4H on hand 1, and 5S on hand 2.

On hand 2, i wondered that 5♠ was perhaps still natural and forcing, could we not still be worried about strain, or have a hand that wanted to pass and pull?

[jdonn]

Simplicity, on Sep 3 2010, 06:14 PM, said:

JLOGIC, on Sep 3 2010, 01:11 PM, said:

I would just bid 4H on hand 1, and 5S on hand 2.

On hand 2, i wondered that 5♠ was perhaps still natural and forcing, could we not still be worried about strain, or have a hand that wanted to pass and pull?

If we had just spades we would bid spades instead of passing. We could have been passing with a choice of suits to play in including spades, planning on pulling a double by partner, but when he bids a suit instead (especially the highest one) he is saying he wants to play there regardless. So we can't introduce a new suit naturally now.

[pooltuna]

jdonn, on Sep 3 2010, 02:27 PM, said:

JLOGIC, on Sep 3 2010, 01:11 PM, said:

MFA, on Sep 3 2010, 12:02 PM, said:

1) 5NT- pick a slam. We probably have a grand but I don't want to shoot it.
2) 5♥. Invitational to slam if partner has a spade control.

Huh? I just woke up so maybe I'm missing something but I don't understand what you mean.

edit: Ok, you just flipped the hands, I'm a moron.

I would just bid 4H on hand 1, and 5S on hand 2.

Same, including initial confusion over MFA lol.

pooltuna, on Sep 3 2010, 11:04 AM, said:

1) 6♥ - Basically looks like a 30 point deck and your side looks to have 27+

I'm confused by this comment. Overcalling 3♠ shows 9 spades?

you rate to know where 11 of the ♠ are is what I was trying to say

[jdonn]

Probably, which makes this a 30 point deck how? That's an expression people use for when they have a void in a particular suit.

[MFA]

jdonn, on Sep 4 2010, 01:26 AM, said:

Simplicity, on Sep 3 2010, 06:14 PM, said:

JLOGIC, on Sep 3 2010, 01:11 PM, said:

I would just bid 4H on hand 1, and 5S on hand 2.

On hand 2, i wondered that 5♠ was perhaps still natural and forcing, could we not still be worried about strain, or have a hand that wanted to pass and pull?

If we had just spades we would bid spades instead of passing. We could have been passing with a choice of suits to play in including spades, planning on pulling a double by partner, but when he bids a suit instead (especially the highest one) he is saying he wants to play there regardless. So we can't introduce a new suit naturally now.

What does partner do if he doesn't have a hand that wants to play in diamonds 'regardless'? But still with a good ♦-suit?

Here it really looks like partner has just tons of diamonds, given our strong hand, outside controls, and RHO's bidding. But apart from that I don't see why partner in principle can't have a second suit in an "one and a half"-suited hand, for instance.

[pooltuna]

jdonn, on Sep 3 2010, 10:15 PM, said:

Probably, which makes this a 30 point deck how? That's an expression people use for when they have a void in a particular suit.

so with 1♠ loser and no wasted ♠values how many hcp do you think you need to make a slam a %age winner?

[CSGibson]

pooltuna, on Sep 4 2010, 04:52 AM, said:

jdonn, on Sep 3 2010, 10:15 PM, said:

Probably, which makes this a 30 point deck how? That's an expression people use for when they have a void in a particular suit.

so with 1♠ loser and no wasted ♠values how many hcp do you think you need to make a slam a %age winner?

If partner has one spade, its a 34 point deck, but you also have to retain the possibility that RHO does not have 7 spades, but could have 6 solid or something like that.

[Fluffy]

hand one you can pass, if partner doubles then he's got singleton and non minimum, then you can bid slam confidently.

If he doesn't it will suck though

[dake50]

1. Close between X as I see 2+S losers in 6H or 5H: do you S-control?

2. Pure guess as you didn't show good controls instead forcing pass.

[BudH]

Simplicity, on Sep 3 2010, 10:35 AM, said:

1.

Scoring: MP

1♥-(3♠)-?

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Would you feel any different playing a weak NT and 4cM?

If one was going to push for slam (marginal), then bid 5♥ asking about a spade control.

On some days, partner will bid 5NT (showing ♠Kx, and a likely void on your left) and you will stay out of 6♠ off the spade ace and a ruff.

Would passing 5NT be an option in your partnership? Hmmmm ......

[Simplicity]

On board 1 partner had Ax AQTxx QJx KQx, so 4♥ scored poorly when most other tables had an easier ride over a 2♠ preempt (RHO was 6124). Was a bit suprised to see people just bidding slam.

I mentioned the 4cM weak NT scenario because i might have felt compelled to double in those conditions. Wondered if anyone might double regardless and get to slam easily if partner bids 5m.

Board 2 pard was sadly - KQ AKQJxxxx KQx so 6♦ was -1 after a heart ruff. Such is life.

[bucky]

Simplicity, on Sep 3 2010, 10:35 AM, said:

1.

Scoring: MP

1♥-(3♠)-?

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Would you feel any different playing a weak NT and 4cM?

2. 

Scoring: MP

1♥-(3♠)-?

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Pass was forcing

1) Flat hand and possible bad break and possible 2 spade losers. I'll go low and bid 4H. Preemptive bids work, at least I can expect to take plus score.

2) I think the question is, what would X from partner mean? I tend to think X from partner shows hearts (to expose the pysch). Then it is still possible that partner has 4 spades. For now I am going to bid 5H here, the real problem comes next round.