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Is this a penalty or take-out double?

#21 User is offline   dake50 

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Posted 2010-August-03, 21:51

My take is double shows heavy defense tricks. Call it penalty if you wish.
Whereas pass has typical/expectable DT, no obvious bid to suggest or I'd bid that suit/NT.
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Posted 2010-August-08, 14:47

I play this as strong balanced, typically 2-3 spades with at least one trump trick.

2NT is likely to be more playing strength in a balanced hand (typically a 5-card minor).

I play both 3H and 3S as natural here.

Pass shows either a hand that wants to defend (will pass partner's reopening double) or a take-out double or a 3-suiter.
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Posted 2010-August-08, 15:05

T/O as all doubles are takeout except those that are specifically defined as penalty. I have no "special" agreements here.
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Posted 2010-August-08, 15:09

Bridge World Standard has this auction:

2C - ( p ) - 2H!* - ( 2S )
DBL = penalty

where Responder's 2H! is the "2nd negative"

The hand here is:
2C - ( 2H ) - DBL* - ( 2S )
DBL = looks like penalty

where Responder's DBL* = "2nd negative" ( as stated by OP ).

In either auction above, if Opener passed 2S... it is forcing.

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In summary ( a la Aquaman ) , since Opener's pass would be forcing ( after 2S ) , then his DBL = penalty
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