[inquiry]

Scoring: MP

Board 8. Bidding Script: North opens 1D and south bids 1NT if he can. If EW still have not bid, north will bid 2C after which they will compete to 3C if forced. Should West bid 2S before north has a chance to bid 2C, North will make a Takeout double and south will bid 3C if he can.

4Sw =10, 4Se =9, 3Cxn=7, 3Sw=3, 3Se=2, 2N=1

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Contracts:
3S E 9
3S W 5
4S W 4
4S E 3
3Cx N 2
2S W 1
3Cx E 1
3C N 1
3Cx S 1


4S W olegru - driver733
4S W tylere / bid_em_up
4S W mbodell - javabean
4S W peachy/lg62
4S E karlson/threenobob
4S E bluecalm/redds <<----- corrected score
4S E elianna/awm
3S W zasanya/ravia6
3S W rogerClee/cherdano
3S W gnasher/catch22
3S W lobowolf/bkjswan
3S W Siegmund/MSchmahl
3S E mohitz/akjq
3S E Codo-Fluffy
3S E jlall/hanp
3S E CanadaGrl/Gerardo
3S E kfay/jchiu
3S E ant590 - crayzeejim
3S E cascade kermit
3S E sallyally/joylson
3S E Flycycle/Wackojack
3Cx S helene_t-agusaris
3Cx N East4Evil/sohcahtoa
3Cx N jdonn/gib
3Cx E Hrothgar/Free
3C N tlgoodwin/timg
2S E kristen33/jillybean
NA 0 j0i/gwnn
NA 0 Tomi2-JHDW
NA 0 Vampyr/Lamford

[kayin801]

Surprised that 3♣X is so high (not that I'm complaining ) since it looks to me like the defense frequently takes only 5 tricks (sometimes 4!). Or am I missing something?

[Siegmund]

I find the scoring on this one almost as strangeas the bidding (at my table North bid clubs twice on a 3-card suit.)

I see no clear top spot, to be honest - 4S needs to pick up the SQ so it's marginally better than a 50% game (and this being MPs, 4S needs to be somewhat better than a 50% game to be bid - how much better depending how many pairs we think are beating 3C.) Similarly I see very little chance of more than 5 tricks against 3C -- as we know on the NS hands we saw 3C looked to be making -- and would surely rate 3CX below partscores in spades.

[bluecalm]

We played 4♠ on this board after an auction:

1D pas 1NT 2D
pas3S pas 4S

Please correct !

[rogerclee]

Siegmund, on Jul 26 2010, 08:55 PM, said:

I find the scoring on this one almost as strangeas the bidding (at my table North bid clubs twice on a 3-card suit.)

I see no clear top spot, to be honest - 4S needs to pick up the SQ so it's marginally better than a 50% game (and this being MPs, 4S needs to be somewhat better than a 50% game to be bid - how much better depending how many pairs we think are beating 3C.) Similarly I see very little chance of more than 5 tricks against 3C -- as we know on the NS hands we saw 3C looked to be making -- and would surely rate 3CX below partscores in spades.

4S is cold, north has spade shortness.

[JLOGIC]

HanP didnt overcall 2S which i tihnk its terrible but then he made a nsty bid and i made an lol 3S bid lol

[gnasher]

How good is 4♠? It's off on a trump lead, which they might well find on the auction.

On a non-trump lead, you'll need to ruff the last heart with ♠A, so that means you go down when North has a singleton queen.