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Posted 2010-July-22, 05:09

x KQ KQTxx AQTxx


(3H)-?

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Posted 2010-July-22, 05:10

pass
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Posted 2010-July-22, 05:36

4NT minors (what else can it be?)
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Posted 2010-July-22, 05:39

whereagles, on Jul 22 2010, 11:36 PM, said:

4NT minors (what else can it be?)

Blackwood.

4♥ minors.
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Posted 2010-July-22, 05:48

4NT

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

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Posted 2010-July-22, 06:10

Hamman eggs in one basket?
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Posted 2010-July-22, 07:26

NO PLZ POOLTUNA NO NO you know when we told you that we are not fond of that expression we meant it :ph34r:
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Posted 2010-July-22, 08:54

shoot the bird!
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Posted 2010-July-22, 09:05

4N
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
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Posted 2010-July-22, 10:07

whereagles, on Jul 22 2010, 06:36 AM, said:

4NT minors (what else can it be?)

4NT = Blackwood

Over 3M preempt:
4M! = minors ( what else can it be ? )
4C! = Clubs and the other Major
4D! = Diams and the other Major
4oM = to play
5m = to play
DBL = cards ( T/O )

[ You give up the natural 4C/4D ] .
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Posted 2010-July-22, 10:20

ONEferBRID, on Jul 22 2010, 10:07 AM, said:

whereagles, on Jul 22 2010, 06:36 AM, said:

4NT minors (what else can it be?)

4NT = Blackwood

Over 3M preempt:
4M! = minors ( what else can it be ? )
4C! = Clubs and the other Major
4D! = Diams and the other Major
4oM = to play
5m = to play
DBL = cards ( T/O )

[ You give up the natural 4C/4D ] .

Yeh. 4m natural seems like the best thing to give up. Gotta pay off somewhere.
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Posted 2010-July-22, 10:21

lol give up 4m natural to gain 4NT blackwood. sounds pretty brilliant
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Posted 2010-July-22, 10:27

jjbrr, on Jul 22 2010, 10:21 AM, said:

lol give up 4m natural to gain 4NT blackwood. sounds pretty brilliant

I see it as giving up 4m natural to gain M/m two suiters and m/m two suiters and giving up a cue which would leave the minor unknown (if M/m) in case of further competition.

4N blackwood not really a big deal, one way or the other.
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Posted 2010-July-22, 11:23

if 4m is natural, 4M is M+m. You give up 4m natural to gain 4NT blackwood and M+m where you know the minor right away.

This has been discussed on the forums before iirc.
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Posted 2010-July-22, 12:11

Of course if you can show the M+m then you are in far better shape when you get such a hand. So I think you are talking nonsense Jeremy, it is not a tradeoff blackwood vs showing a minor at all.

Having said that, I slightly prefer 4m natural and would never play 4NT natural. And I agree that this has been discussed many times.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-July-22, 12:59

Does anyone play NLM over 3S but not over 3H - because you can bid 4H Michael's and still play in 4S?
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Posted 2010-July-22, 15:57

MickyB, on Jul 22 2010, 07:59 PM, said:

Does anyone play NLM over 3S but not over 3H - because you can bid 4H Michael's and still play in 4S?

Yes, I once agreed to that. I think it was because I wanted to play NLM and my partner didn't.
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