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Misdefense ATB

#1 User is offline   sathyab 

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Posted 2010-February-22, 21:15

Scoring: IMP

p 1s 3c 3h
p 3s p 4h
all pass


EW playing UDCA

T1: ♣3, x, T, x
T2: ♣A, x, ♦9, x
T3: ♥8, 9, A, x

Declarer pulls trumps and claims.
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Posted 2010-February-22, 21:26

How is this an ATB? East could try playing bridge. West could get a new pard I guess.
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Posted 2010-February-22, 21:29

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Posted 2010-February-22, 22:10

I think the blame goes to the partnership for not being on the same page about what the diamond signal means in this case. Is it "showing" (no diamond honor) or "telling" (stop leading clubs!)?

It depends a bit on the trump spots, but I don't see why West cannot have something like Txxx Axx Kxxxx x, in which case South might have 10 tricks if trumps are not led. I would not have guessed that south held KQ9xx of trump.
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Posted 2010-February-22, 22:14

Actually, never mind - you gave all the higher trump spots so I guess the x in dummy must be very small.

Is there any way a trump lead could be required here? Even if South holds x KQT9xxx A xxxx, I don't think a trump lead helps because the defenders get squeezed.
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Posted 2010-February-22, 23:43

I don't understand these fancy signals I guess... playing upside down I would take a high diamond as discouraging meaning west does not have a high diamond honor which makes the defense very easy.
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Posted 2010-February-23, 01:15

ATB = 100% E.
This is so clear that I don't even understand why the question was posed.
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Posted 2010-February-23, 01:34

To me high ♦ means "no diamond A or K". East should take it from there.

Club lead beats it for sure. After a pointed suit lead declarer is unlikely to get hearts right. Seems like only a heart lead gives the game away. Maybe a spade trying to cut dummys entries is best?
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Posted 2010-February-23, 10:48

At least the question asked was easy enough that we could now divert to both N and S's absurd rebids? But yes what else is west supposed to do, throw the queen of spades? He really shouldn't have to...
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Posted 2010-February-23, 12:44

jdonn, on Feb 23 2010, 11:48 AM, said:

At least the question asked was easy enough that we could now divert to both N and S's absurd rebids? But yes what else is west supposed to do, throw the queen of spades? He really shouldn't have to...

I'm glad someone else noticed the auction.

As for the misdefense, I think W gave E everything he needed to know!
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